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Re: Negotiated private cache storage allocation

From: Mike Kelly <mikekelly321@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:24:58 +0000
Message-ID: <CANqiZJa1sutRqd9rg+iG1qWoW-B1STcqewgF+9T5DSVxAWdVeA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, REST-Discuss Discussion Group <rest-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
I think my terminology is wrong then in that case because that is
basically the model I am looking for. By negotiation, I'd simply meant
the process of a server requesting a cache storage allocation from the
UA.

I'm personally less keen on the heuristic idea from a standard
protocol perspective. I do think it's a good idea though, and
definitely something UAs could develop and optimise as part of their
on-going performance arms-race :)

Really, I would just like a standard way to use an HTTP response to
challenge the UA, which can then ask its user to grant or reject a
cache storage quota.

Cheers,
Mike

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> I'm a little uncomfortable calling this "negotiation"; the model I have in mind is that a site might request a larger allocation than the default, and the UA would ask the user (or possibly, the user would pre-configure to accept or deny). Wherever possible, though, the browser should probably use a heuristic, to keep it simple (From a UX perspective).
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On 15/12/2011, at 9:38 AM, Mike Kelly wrote:
>
>> Nice one thanks Mark, +1 to all of that post
>>
>> What do you think about handling the negotiation via HTTP?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>> Some thoughts along vaguely similar lines -
>>>
>>> http://www.mnot.net/blog/2011/08/28/better_browser_caching
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15/12/2011, at 7:16 AM, Mike Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone aware of any proposals that extend HTTP to allow servers and
>>>> clients to negotiate client-side storage allocation for client-side
>>>> (private) caches?
>>>>
>>>> Basically, I'm looking for a way for a server to indicate how much
>>>> storage should be allocated for caching responses from a particular
>>>> domain name, and possibly also for the client to be able to indicate
>>>> how much allocation was actually possible.
>>>>
>>>> Aside from that, if you have any thoughts on whether or not this is
>>>> really feasible or is just a plain bad idea - please let me know
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Nottingham
>>> http://www.mnot.net/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> --
> Mark Nottingham
> http://www.mnot.net/
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