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Re: Unverifiable Transactions / Cookie draft

From: Jeremey Barrett <jeremey@veriweb.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:10:28 -0800
Message-Id: <332F04C4.4B9E1DA6@veriweb.com>
To: steve@golf.com
Cc: http-wg@cuckoo.hpl.hp.com
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Steven Sajous wrote:
> 
> You guys should really ease up on the conspiracy theories. Whenever
> you call Pizza -Hut Dominoes or any big food delivery place your are
> sent (technically) a cookie. They know exactly what phone number you
> are calling from. They will not say that because it is against the
> law for them to tell you that they have your number, but it is legal
> for them to have it.

It's not about conspiracies. Just because existing systems do not
promote privacy is no reason to continue them, especially in a medium
which _could_ be very conducive to privacy. I'm not willing to
throw privacy out the window because "it's not out there now". We
should be focused on improving matters not maintaining the status quo.

> 
> Second whenever you get a driver's license you are sent
> (technically) a cookie. Where do you think Reader's Digest gets your
> address to send you you entries to win $10,000,000. No one complains
> about that. The truth is that it is very expensive to keep a site up,
> and advertising is the only way to go for bigger sites. So stop being
> paranoid, you have been receiving cookies way before you knew what a
> modem looked like

Great. Some systems sacrifice my privacy, so why not let the rest of
them do it too? I do not oppose advertising. I oppose _facilitating
violating a user's privacy without his/her consent_. Period. If they
choose to allow cookies from anywhere at anytime, so be it, I think
that should be an option in user agents. 

Jeremey.

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Jeremey Barrett                                  VeriWeb Internet Corp.
Crypto, Ecash, Commerce Systems                 http://www.veriweb.com/
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