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Re: Unverifiable Transactions / Cookie draft

From: Jeremey Barrett <jeremey@veriweb.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:17:48 -0800
Message-Id: <332F067C.3EACEBED@veriweb.com>
To: steve@golf.com
Cc: http-wg@cuckoo.hpl.hp.com
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Steven Sajous wrote:
> 
> Second whenever you get a driver's license you are sent
> (technically) a cookie. Where do you think Reader's Digest gets your
> address to send you you entries to win $10,000,000. No one complains
> about that. The truth is that it is very expensive to keep a site up,
> and advertising is the only way to go for bigger sites. So stop being
> paranoid, you have been receiving cookies way before you knew what a
> modem looked like

It is obvious to me that the spec does not preclude advertising. 
Rather than rewrite the same thing in other words, I will paste
from one of Ted Hardie's messages, which is quite clear:

Ted Hardie wrote:
> There is nothing in the spec which forces you back to a "login" method
> to track unique users.  The spec requires that you make sure that the
> same cookies are not used across domains; it allows you to do what you
> want *within a domain*.  If you want to make sure that a dejanews user
> sees an advert three times and then gets moved to a different ad, you
> are welcome to use cookies to do so.
> 
> If you wish to use cookies to make sure that a user sees an advert
> three times *at any site* before moving on to a different ad, sorry.
> Because the use of the same cookie across sites allows for the
> creation of very invasive clicktrail analysis, that has been ruled out.
> there is
> something which says that if you are using cookies, you need to manage
> them within your domain.
> 

Jeremey.

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Jeremey Barrett                                  VeriWeb Internet Corp.
Crypto, Ecash, Commerce Systems                 http://www.veriweb.com/
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