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Re: auto-checkout and auto-checkin

From: Tim Ellison <Tim_Ellison@uk.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:34:12 +0100
To: "DeltaV" <ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OF79FA609B.6EEA0C1E-ON80256A87.003BA2F2@portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>

> I used to think I understood what the auto checkin/checkout
> stuff did, and meant.  Now I think I don't.  The latest
> changes to that section of the spec
> (might have been a while ago) actually made it harder to handle.
> 1.  If I read the definition of auto-checkout, it's pretty
> clear the checkout is triggered by a modification request,
> but whether the trigger happens is dependent on the _state_
> of the resource.

Right, in particular whether the resource is checked-in or not and whether
it is locked or not.

> Thus "unlocked-update" means "if the resource is unlocked when
> the trigger event happens, do a checkout".  But then the
> definition of auto-checkin is not the same.  I would have
> thought "unlocked-update" meant "when the resource is unlocked
> do a checkin", but that's different than the definition of
> auto-checkout.

Auto-checkin means that *if* the resource was auto-checked-out then it
should also be auto-checked-in after the modification request (trigger)
subject to its locked state.

If the DAV:auto-checkin value is DAV:unlocked-update that likely means that
the client has locked the resource and is performing multiple modification
requests on it.  Rather than capture each modification as a version, the
modifications are grouped by the lifetime of the lock.  Once the lock is
removed (explicitly or by timeout) the group of changes are captured as a
version by an auto-checkin (again, it must have been auto-checked-out
If the resource was not locked when it was modified a new version will be
captured for each modification request.

The scenarios for DAV:auto-checkin with a value DAV:locked-update are less
likely.  Either the resource was locked when it was auto-checked-out and
every modification request should result in a version, or the resource was
unlocked when it was auto-checked-out and it should be captured as a
version when locked and subsequently modified.

> At any rate, whether the tags mean the same
> thing in both properties is one problem, but what both tags mean
> for auto-checkin is the real problem.  The missing piece of
> information for auto-checkin is what requests TRIGGER the
> auto-checkin behaviour.

It is still the modification request.  So imagine an unlocked version
controlled resource with values
DAV:auto-checkout -> DAV:unlocked-update
DAV:auto-checkin -> DAV:locked-update

Client issues:         Server does:        Version-controlled resource:
                                           checked-in, unlocked
PUT                    CHECKOUT            checked-out, unlocked
LOCK                   LOCK                checked-out, locked
PUT                    PUT
                       CHECKIN             checked-in, locked
UNLOCK                 UNLOCK              checked-in, unlocked

(Why would you do that?)

> 2.  Is it really reasonable for a server to have unlocked-update,
> but NOT locked-update?  Currently the spec allows either value,
> both or neither.  This is a total of four states the client must
> understand.  One can be eliminated.

I agree that there are combinations that don't make much sense.

> 3.  Is it really reasonable for a server to have auto-checkin
> behaviour but no auto-checkout behaviour?  E.g. have a auto-
> checkin with "unlocked-update" but auto-checkout shows nothing?
> If it's not reasonable, then 3 additional states  can be
> eliminated without the client having to worry about them.

Auto-checkin means nothing without auto-checkout.

> On the whole, I preferred the automatic checkin/checkout stuff
> the way I remember it - there was less combinatorial confusion,
> there were no unreasonable settings, and the explanations were
> clearer.

It was simpler, but some folk complained that their use case was not
satisfied by it.  I recall the "make the lifetime of the check-out the same
as that of the lock" as a reasonable request, but the others I forget.

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