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How to get tidy updated in various distribution channels?

From: Geoff McLane <ubuntu@geoffair.info>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:29 +0200
To: html-tidy@w3.org, curtis@canonical.com
Message-ID: <5609416D.1030606@geoffair.info>
Cross post this on the public list

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	How to get tidy updated in various distribution channels?
Date: 	Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:27:11 +0200
From: 	Geoff McLane <ubuntu@geoffair.info>
To: 	Edward Vielmetti <edward.vielmetti@gmail.com>, Sierk Bornemann 
<sierkb@gmail.com>
CC: 	tidy@geoffair.info, Ryan Schmidt <ryandesign@macports.org>



Hi Sierk,

As Edward points out, thanks largely to him, we have
the Apple platform well covered, but it would be nice
if Apple also weighed in ;=))

But there is a real problem with Ubuntu (Debian)! And
probably LOTS of other package distributions...

I just checked synaptic in my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and it
still lists libtidy-0.99, circa 2009 ;=(( YUK!!!

I checked around LaunchPad - https://launchpad.net/tidy -
and found this still points to sourceforge 2009 tidy,
home page and source! UGH!

How do we change that? I do not fully understand how
these things work, having not used them before...

But maybe we should write to Curtis Hovey (maybe
curtis@canonical.com?)? Direct approach... maybe cc
him on this...

Or maybe there is a way to file for a badly needed
package update??? Where?

And the page - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/tidy -
also shows 2009 Tidy, despite the fact that an update
(Ha!) was done 2015-07-23!!! Nearly a month after our
5.0.0 release...

We certainly need to STIR something up somewhere ;=))

Important Links:

     site: http://www.html-tidy.org/
     source: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
     binaries: http://www.htacg.org/binaries/
     bugs: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
     list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/html-tidy/
     api: http://www.htacg.org/tidy-html5/tidylib_api/
     quickref: http://www.htacg.org/tidy-html5/quickref.html

Regards,
Geoff.


On 26/09/15 01:41, Edward Vielmetti wrote:
> Sierk - sure take my text and use it if it will help.
>
> My next desire is not so much for Apple to update tidy (since it's readily
> available in Macports and fink and Homebrew that platform is OK).
> But Debian has an ancient tidy and I think that's addressable
> in finite time to improve at least to get tidy-html5 into `sid`.
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Sierk Bornemann <sierkb@gmail.com 
> <mailto:sierkb@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Geoff,
>     hi Edward,
>     hi Ryan!
>
>     Tidy is part of Apple’s Open Source stack Darwin and so part of
>     their OS X distribution since years [1] as well as part of iOS as
>     well as of their newest OS, watchOS. Unfortunately, it's a very
>     old version:
>
>     OS X 10.10.5 (Yosemite)
>     $ tidy --version
>     HTML Tidy for Mac OS X released on 31 October 2006 - Apple Inc.
>     build 15.15
>
>     Latest security updates for iOS and watchOS contain updates for
>     tidy, concerning CVE-2015-5522 and CVE-2015-5523 vulnerabilities,
>     which are closed in Tidy 4.9.31 and later 5.x.
>
>     Apples Tidy is very outdated, is an old version based on the last
>     available version on SourceForge, hasn’t changed and updated for
>     years, isn’t capable of HTML5.
>     Years ago, Nov 17 2008, I filed a bug "Update HTML Tidy and
>     TidyLib to the latest official version" in Apple’s internal bug
>     database on https://bugreport.apple.com/ and mirrored the bug for
>     transparency purpose on OpenRadar [3]. I updated the bug’s
>     information July 31 2014, reflecting that W3C had forked the dead
>     SF tidy project to give it new life and to urge Apple to please
>     update tidy.
>     So far no reaction, no update from Apple to their tidy.
>     Since then, I’ve not updated the bug’s description, to reflect the
>     new situation under HTACG’s umbrella, but want do so shortly.
>
>     [1] http://www.opensource.apple.com/
>     http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/tidy/
>     http://www.apple.com/opensource/
>
>     [2] APPLE-SA-2015-09-16-1 iOS 9
>     http://lists.apple.com/archives/security-announce/2015/Sep/msg00001.html
>
>     tidy
>     Available for:  iPhone 4s and later,
>     iPod touch (5th generation) and later, iPad 2 and later
>     Impact:  Visiting a maliciously crafted website may lead to arbitrary
>     code execution
>     Description:  A memory corruption issue existed in Tidy. This issues
>     was addressed through improved memory handling.
>     CVE-ID
>     CVE-2015-5522 : Fernando Munoz of NULLGroup.com
>     CVE-2015-5523 : Fernando Munoz of NULLGroup.com
>
>     APPLE-SA-2015-09-21-1 watchOS 2
>     http://lists.apple.com/archives/security-announce/2015/Sep/msg00005.html
>
>     [quote]
>     tidy
>     Available for:  Apple Watch Sport, Apple Watch,
>     and Apple Watch Edition
>     Impact:  Visiting a maliciously crafted website may lead to arbitrary
>     code execution
>     Description:  A memory corruption issue existed in Tidy. This issues
>     was addressed through improved memory handling.
>     CVE-ID
>     CVE-2015-5522 : Fernando Munoz of NULLGroup.com
>     CVE-2015-5523 : Fernando Munoz of NULLGroup.com
>     [/quote]
>
>     [3] OpenRadar bug 6376494 (Apple internal rdar://6376494): Update
>     HTML Tidy and TidyLib to the latest official version
>     http://openradar.appspot.com/6376494
>
>
>
>     My question to you is: what can be done, what can you/we do,
>     beyond my past efforts in this case, to convince Apple to
>     eventually update its old outdated stock tidy to the most recent
>     stable one of HTACG? Any Idea? Any suggestions?
>
>     @Edward Vielmetti:
>     May I take, with your allowance, just for convenience and instead
>     of writing my own text, your text of fink ticket #1044
>     http://sourceforge.net/p/fink/package-requests/1044/ and copy it
>     for updating my Apple Rdar-bug 6376494 as well as its OpenRadar
>     equivalent?
>
>     Suggestions and help welcome,
>     Regards,
>     Sierk Bornemann
>
>     --
>     Sierk Bornemann | web developer | germany
>
> -- 
> Edward Vielmetti +1 734 330 2465
> edward.vielmetti@gmail.com <mailto:edward.vielmetti@gmail.com>
>
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