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Re: tidy (fwd)

From: Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 00:21:44 +0100 (BST)
To: Allan Clark <allanc@caldera.com>
cc: html-tidy@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205180019140.1538-100000@hazel>
Tidy already checks the content for td elements to see whether
they have block level or inline content. If the latter, the </td>
isn't moved to the next line.

 <td><p>....</p></td> 

 <td>
 <p>...</p>
 </td>

render the same, although

 <td>some text</td>
 
and 

 <td>
   some text
 </td>

may not.


On Fri, 17 May 2002, Allan Clark wrote:

> It looks to me like this request can be summed up and compressed as:
> 
> Feature Request:
> please add to html-tidy a method of configuring it not to add newlines
> or spacing before tags.
> 
> Perhaps this could be like not using "indent".  I doubt this would need
> a per-tag configuratoin ability (such would be exhaustive) but could, at
> first, use a global config item.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> Dave Raggett wrote:
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:23:15 -0700
> > From: webmaster@danzon.com
> > To: dsr@w3.org
> > Subject: tidy
> > 
> > Tidy almost works, but can't be used safely until this can be fixed:
> > 
> > There's sort of a major problem with tidy in that it by default
> > places the </td> tag on its own line, which basically destroys any
> > fine tuned table structure in most browsers out there by adding a
> > space, this also happens if say you have a block of text ended by
> > </p> followed by </td>, you hopefully have noted by now in your
> > career that the space between the last line of text increases
> > slightly if the </td> is on its own line, as opposed to following
> > the </p> tag, like </p></td>. This is the reality of most browsers
> > out there.
> > 
> > Of course, you can run tidy to xhtml specs, then reformat your code
> > in dreamweaver, setting the break before </td> option off in its
> > configuration file, but that's getting pretty darned obscure, not to
> > mention a major pain in the butt, and excludes like 99% of the
> > world's users, since almost noone can do that, or even knows that
> > can be done.
> > 
> > Your wrox book too had a bunch of these kinds of very subtle errors
> > and descrepancies that make me wonder a little about the people who
> > are making these standards. Not to mention that extremely, to put it
> > mildly, unfortunate decision to include a free advertisement for
> > that Mosquito product, whose connection to html and xhtml is distant
> > at best. Fortunately O'Reilly press sometimes is able to point out
> > some of these errors.
> 

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