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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2005-06-16: Amy to provide test cases for MEPs not described
in Part 2, due 2005-07.
? 2005-07-20: dorchard to respond to commenter on keeping
mustUnderstand
? 2005-07-21: pauld to write a proposal for a working group
report for requirements for schema evolution
following closure of LC124
Current Editorial Action Items
DONE [.3] 2005-07-21: amy to write abstract for alt schema languages
and to do some cleanup under jonathan's direction
DONE [.3] 2005-07-21: editors of note to add references to wsdl
documents (RNG, etc.)
? 2005-07-21: Arthur to add stable identifiers for each
assertion, due 2005-09-26.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jul/0111.html
[.3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-wsdl20-altschemalangs-20050817/
LC period ends 19 September - get your issues in now (roll up, roll up!)
getting confirmation on the editorial status of issues
Arthur: suggesting a common bibliography for all documents
Marsh: sounds good, but a fair bit of work - editors willing to do this?
Arthur: seems less efficient, but it is a lot of work
RESOLUTION: accepted - to the editors to fix
Marsh: point to RFC3987 instead of the draft TAG finding
RESOLUTION: accepted - to the editors to fix
Marsh: mention IRIs in Primer to
point out that they can be used in place of URIs (almost
everywhere)
... perhaps Hugo and Kevin can deal with this
Marsh: clarifying the concept of IANA media type token
Arthur: should we be skipping Hugo's issues until he is next on the call?
Marsh: let's skip this one
Arthur: and Hugo wrote this section, too - Hugo is commenting on a section he wrote - difficult to address in his absence
Marsh: divergence of notations between WSDL and WS-A - suggestion to add this statement to our notation, but complicated by our extension notation
<Allen> Have to drop off
Arthur: what does WS-A expect in the way of extensibility?
Marsh: open content model
... they do have some extensions
Arthur: maybe we have the same text in both their spec and ours, but clarify
Marsh: will volunteer to craft some text to go in both documents, phrased suitably for both
<scribe> ACTION: Marsh to propose some text to address LC305 in terms suitable for both WS-A and WS-D [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01]
editorial comments relating to wsdlx
<Marsh> RESOLUTION: wsdlx is defined in Core, extended in Adjuncts. Editorial clarifications as necessary to explain this will be made. Hyphen removed as well.
Marsh: as long as this does not imply that you can use fragment identifiers as part of the language, this is OK
Arthur: this seems mostly harmless
Marsh: shall we resolve to accept this here, and in similar situations
RESOLUTION: accepted here and in similar situations.
<scribe> ACTION: Arthur to effect the changes necessary to resolve LC308 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02]
Arthur: we can remove the list to reduce maintenance
RESOLUTION: accepted
<scribe> ACTION: Arthur to make the change to resolve LC309 (remove list, make reference general) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03]
Roberto: suggest removing the ws prefix from the items (shouldn't need to specify the prefix)
Marsh: look at section 4.2, ensure that it's consistent and clear which import we are taking about
<scribe> ACTION: Roberto to fix LC310 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action04]
<Roberto> me it won't work
<Marsh> RESOLUTION: LC310 closed, accepted.
RESOLUTION: accepted - to the editors to fix
RESOLUTION: accepted without dissent
Jacek: we should not call this an example - should include it as normative
Roberto: but then we have two things to keep in sync - drop the example and make the schema the definition
Marsh: perhaps change the word "definition"
<asir> There is a bug in the schema at http://www.w3.org/2005/08/wsdl/rpc.xsd - attributeFormDefault is declared to be unqualified - I'll raise a separate issue
Discussion of how to reference the (normative) schema, but leave this example in place
RESOLUTION: add the wrpc namespace to table 1-1; in section 4.1.2, insert "excerpt" to clarify that this is not the full normative description
<scribe> ACTION: Roberto to act upon the resolution of LC316 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Marsh to mark LC319 as non-editorial and ask for a proposal from Hugo [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action06]
RESOLUTION: accept the proposed new wording in LC322
<scribe> Postponed until we deal with LC318
RESOLUTION: accept the proposed new wording in LC325
asir: did we have a similar issue in previous Last Call?
Marsh: we had some granularity
issues, not sure if they are the same
... if we don't change this, it would be hard to support WS-A
(which requires the flexibility)
Jacek: would support this
Marsh: this changes the model, and schema - would changing this force us into another Last Call?
Arthur: have to support what people want to do
Marsh: shall we get a statement from WS-A to support this change?
<scribe> ACTION: Jonathan to run LC301 past WS-Addressing to get confirmation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action07]
Hugo withdrew the issue
RESOLUTION: close with no action
<Arthur> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/2005Aug/0012.html
Discussion of namespace URI/IRI
Marsh: namespace can use IRI
RESOLUTION: add clarification that the URI for the extension is the namespace URI, and this URI can be an IRI
<scribe> ACTION: Arthur to implement the resolution of LC311 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action08]
RESOLUTION: LC313 proposal accepted as stated
Brief discussion of the advantages of using the formal notation (Z) as a means of discovering problems in specification
<scribe> ACTION: Marsh to include "Z notation in Part 2" in next agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/09/01-ws-desc-minutes.html#action09]