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Camp | Council | Location | Source | Notes | Firecrafter Years |
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Chank-tun-un-gi | Central Indiana | Indianapolis, IN |
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Birthplace of Firecrafter See Note 1 |
1920-1948 |
Belzer | Central Indiana | Indianapolis, IN |
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Renamed in honor of Firecrafter's founder after his death | 1948-1972 |
Belzer | Crossroads of America | Indianapolis, IN |
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See Note 2 Current CAC Cub Day Camp |
1972- Still hosts rituals and is an active Fire |
Ransburg | Central Indiana | Bloomington, IN |
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See Note 2 | 1966-1972 |
Ransburg | Crossroads of America | Bloomington, IN |
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Current CAC Boy Scout summer camp | 1972- Still hosts rituals and is an active Fire |
Kikthawenund | Madison County, IN |
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1920s or 1930s | ||
Kikthawenund | Kikthawenund | Anderson, IN |
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See Note 2 | -1940s |
Kikthawenund | Crossroads of America | Anderson, IN |
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Current CAC Webelos Summer Camp | 1972- Still hosts rituals |
Bradford | Central Indiana | Martinsville, IN |
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See Note 2 | 1948-1972 |
Bradford | Crossroads of America | Martinsville, IN |
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A current CAC camp | 1972-1980s Last ritual1984 |
Redwing | Delaware County | Muncie, IN |
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See Note 2 and 2a | 1940s-1972 |
Redwing | Crossroads of America | Muncie, IN | A current CAC camp | Still hosts Rituals | |
Bear Creek | Whitewater Valley | Connersville, IN |
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See Note 2 | See Note 16 Camp was founded in 1946 |
Bear Creek | Crossroads of America | Connersville, IN |
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See Notes 16 and 17 | 1972-1980s Still hosts Rituals |
Whitewater | Wayne County | Hagerstown, IN |
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See Note 3 | c. 1930-1932 |
Wapa Kamigi | Wayne County | Hagerstown, IN |
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See Note 3 | 1932-1935 |
Wapa Kamigi | Whitewater Valley | Hagerstown, IN |
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See Note 3 | 1935-? |
Flat Rock | Central Indiana | Shelbyville, IN |
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c. 1940s-1950s | |
Rotary | Central Indiana | Crawfordsville, IN |
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1943-1951
or 1952 1950s-early 1970s |
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Cullom | Central Indiana | Frankfort, IN | 1948/49-1960s | ||
Port Optimist | Central Indiana | Indianapolis, IN |
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1940s-1960s | |
Kiwanis | Central Indiana | Indianapolis, IN |
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1940s-1960s | |
Pohoka | Southern Indiana | Evansville, IN |
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See Note 4 | 1935-1955 |
Pohoka, possibly others | Buffalo Trace | Evansville, IN |
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See Note 5 | 1955-1980s? |
Robert Faries | Lincoln Trails | Decatur, IL |
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See Note 6 | 1935-1980s Rekindled in 1997/1998 |
See Note 7 | Okaw Valley? | O'Fallon, IL | See Note 7 | c. 1940s-c. 1960s | |
See Note 8 | Okaw Valley | Flora, IL | See Note 8 | Late 1950s- Still an active Fire |
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Cauble | Sekan Area | Independence, KS |
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See Note 9 | c. 1930s-c. 1940s |
Post | South Plains Area | Lubbok, TX |
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See Note 10 | c. 1930s-c. 1950s |
Krietenstein | Wabash Valley | Terre Haute, IN |
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See Note 11 | 1930s |
Falling Rock | Licking County | 14 miles north of Newark, OH |
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Drake | Arrowhead | Champaign-Urbana, IL | 1935-? | ||
Louis Ernst? | Hoosier Hills Area | Southern Indiana |
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See Note 12 | |
Shawondassee | Grand Valley | Grand Rapids, MI |
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See Note 13 | |
Osceola | See Note 14 | Kalamazoo, MI |
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See Note 14 | |
Pottawattomi | Pottawattomi | Jones, MI | See Note 15 | 1940s-? | |
Rota-Kiwan | Fruitbelt Area |
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See Note 15 | Late 1930s-? | |
Tamarack | La Salle | See Note 18 | See Note 18 | 1990-1992 | |
Sioux |
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See Note 19 | 1940s | ||
Brule |
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See Note 20 | 1940s? |
Over
twenty different camps from across the nation are named. The History of
Firecrafter states that: Firecrafter
spread all over the United States through the efforts of professional members
of the Central Indiana Council staff who left to serve in other councils. It
was especially strong in Indiana and the surrounding states. In Indiana it
became active in a dozen council during the late 40s and early 50s, including
all of the four councils that are now the Crossroads of America Council.
If there actually were Fires in a dozen Indiana councils, the list leaves
many unaccounted for.
Firecrafteron top and
Camp Redwingon the bottom. They are two distinct patches, however, as the patch in Frank's collection has a fire with logs and smoke in front of a teepee while Matt's patch has only a red squiggle in the same place. At the 1998 Grand Ritual, several members of the Mojenikyah Ember (where Camp Redwing is located) were shown the patch and asked about it, but no one had seen it before or knew anything about Firecrafter in the Muncie area before 1972.
A Token
of Appreciation
to Our Good Friend
Ralph R. Teetor
Camp Whitewater
Firecrafters
Circles at the top left and
bottom right were Firecrafter emblems, with the red C
and fire and
yellow teepee made out of wood and attached to a black
background. The top right and bottom left circles were similar except
that they were Minisino emblems, ant the M
was bright
orange! The M
was
similar to those Minisino patches that were made by Aunt Stella (the lady
who made the original felt patches at the Central Indiana Council office)
because the center of the M
came down to the same level as the
bottom of the legs of the M
. Just to the right of this plaque was
an 8½ x 11 sheet of paper in a frame with the following in all capital
letters:
In 1932, as a token of their appreciation to Mr. Ralph Teetor, the Firecrafters of the Wayne County Area of Boy Scouts, constructed and presented this beautiful plaque to Mr. Teetor.
It is made of white pine and black walnut letters and border. The letters were carefully carved and placed upon the white pine background. In each corner of the plaque is located a carved scout insignia painted in vivid colors of red, yellow, black, and orange. The boys spent one hundred and fifty hours of work on the project.
In the summer of 1929 Mr. Teetor purchased land south of Hagerstown on which to build a lake and scout camp. By the fall the lake wand camp were completed and was presented by the Wayne County Council of the Boy Scouts of America.
Camp Whitewater was the name originally given the camp, but was later changed to Wapa Kamigi, the Indian name for Whitewater.
Scouts from Wayne, Rush, Randolph, and Fayette counties came to Wapa Kamigi for six-day periods. Each boy was to pay $3.50 for his board and lodging.
(The above info. was taken from the August 1932 issue fo Perfect Circle's Circle magazine.)
The implications of this are great. First of all, it confirms the existence of a Fire in the Whitewater Valley area. Secondly, it gives us a Minisino patch that no one associated with the current Firecrafter organization has ever seen. Finally, it pushes back the date for the first Fire besides Chank-tun-un-gi at least four years (1931), as the article is dated August of 1932 and it appears from the scope of this project that there must have been at least some Firecrafters in the area during the winter of 1931/32. It is uncertain how long the camp lasted. It appears that the Whitewater Valley Council was formed in 1935, and with the closeness in time period we can assume that Firecrafters probably existed at Wapa Kamigi after the Council was formed. It is also likely that the Fire transferred at some point in time to Camp Bear Creek (see Notes 16 and 17).
Mis used on Minisino patches in Southern and Central Illinois.
Mis used on Minisino patches in Southern and Central Illinois.
My name is Mike Erickson. I am writing because your name was on the web page dealing with the History of the Firecrafter organization. You have no idea how excited I am about some information I found on this site. You have no idea
I was very interested in this site because I am the Lodge Advisor to the Historian for Kansa Lodge #198 in south central and southeast Kansas. Our lodge is newly formed from the merger of Hi-Cha-Ko-Lo and Nani-Ba-Zhu. Before the merger, there were only a few of us keenly interested in our history and heritage. The lodges themselves did a poor job of maintaining a historical record. As a few of us gained more information, we would take it to Fall Fellowship, etc., and share it with othersscouts and Scouters alikeand more folks got interested. Finally, with the creation of Kansa 198, the lodge decided it was time to get serious, and created the position called "Historian". I got asked to be advisor because of my strong belief in the importance of our history (and because I was one of the few adults interested in the history that was also very active in the lodge).
There were a number of unanswered questions and mysteries about the origins of our totems, name, etc. But I think, because of your web-site, one of the biggest may be answered. You see, in 1972, Mi-Ni-Ci-No Lodge #433 was merged into Hi-Cha-Ko-Lo Lodge #198. Much of the history of Mi-Ni-Ci-No Lodge is lost. Most of the old-timers (that I can find, anyway), cannot remember the meaning of Mi-Ni-Ci-No, or why it was chosen as the lodge name. I have hunted through books and more books in libraries, trying to find it's meaning, primarily in books regarding the Sioux and Kansa languages, since those are the local native tribes. But then I found your web page!
I see on the
Extinct Firespage that there was once a Firecrafter organization in Sekan Area Council, at Camp Cauble, in Kansas. Sekan Area Council was headquartered in Independence, Kansas, and its OA lodge (when chartered) was called Mi-Ni-Ci-No. (You may know all this, but bear with me, please). From what I know, Camp Cauble was in existence from at least '36 to '39, but anything more is not for certain. Mi-Ni-Ci-No Lodge was started in the late '40s (I don't have the date in front of me). I'm surmising that when they finally decided to start an OA lodge, they selected as its name the highest honor in the Firecrafter program. The spelling is different, and I don't know about the years when Firecrafter officially ended in Sekan, but it's too close to be coincidence. And I see the meaning of Minisino: Tried and Proven - in the Miami language.This is, to me, a great find. I am incredibly excited. Unbelievable
What little research Matt Baldwin had done on the subject agrees with everything that Mike wrote. A national patch dealer tells Matt Baldwin that the lodge produced an F1, F2, J1, S1, N1, and N2. The solid flap is more scarce than the twill flaps. The Blue Book (the current authority on the history of OA lodge insignia), says that a rattlesnake was their lodge totem. This is the only instance we know of where a Fire evolved into an Order of the Arrow lodge. In July of 1998 I found a used F1 for sale for $45 and a mint S1 for $165.
Matt Baldwin has in his collection a cut
edge three inch Firecrafter patch with a red border and no lettering that
the dealer he bought it from claimed was from Camp Cauble. Mike Stalcup
has a red bordered Woodsman patch that says Woodsman
on the top
and Cauble
on the bottom.
Trapper. Matt Baldwin owns one of these patches. It is the only instance we know of where a new rank was created outside of the Central Indiana and Crossroads of America Councils. Note that the white
Mused on Minisino patches in Southern and Central Illinois and the orange
Mfrom eastern Indiana is just different insignia than is used in Indiana for the same rank (Minisino). I e-mailed several Scouters in the South Plains Area Council for help in dating and verifying the patch, and was told that they knew it was a camp rank, and it was not for the first year camper but later on. How much later they could not say. Perhaps most interesting is that they claimed a version was also made out of felt.
Hoosier Hillslettering was sold at the CAC auction. A similar camper patch is in the collection of M Mike Stalcup.
Oinstead of a
C. The lettering says
Camp Shawondassee. It seems most likely that this is from the Camp Shawondossee that was in Grand Rapids, based on location and the possible existence of a Fire in Kalamazoo, MI. It might be from the Camp Shawondassee in the Red River Council of North Dakota. That camp closed in 1947. Another possibility is the Camp Shawondassee that was operated by the Richmond Area Council of Virginia until 1942, the Robert E. Lee-Virginia Council from 1942-1953, and the Robert E. Lee Council from 1953 until the present.
Camp Osceolaon top and
BSAon the bottom. There is a red fire with three flames on the arrowhead, with blue and red smoke rising from the fire. A red circle surrounds all but the bottom of the arrowhead. Heres the kicker: the fire is burning on top of the Firecrafter fraternity letters three X's. Camp Osceola existed in the Kansas City Area Council (Missouri) from 1930-1962. It was renamed the H. Roe Bartle Reservation in 1962. Bartle was a friend of F. O. Belzer, the Central Indiana Council executive and founder of Firecrafter. A man named Don Baldwin was a Scouter from Central Indiana who went to K. C. in the late 20s or early 30s and used the Firecrafter patch as the model for the Osceola patch. Firecrafter, however, was never at the camp (but Mic-O-Say was!). The current Bartle reservation patch is similar in design but different in color from this patch.
I am glad you like the pages. It is gratifying to know that people are reading and using them. The Kalamazoo info was provided by Paul Myers in Goshen, Indiana. I consider Paul to be a national scouting historian. He researches things and has written a number of books and dozens of historical articles that have been published through the years.
He goes on to state that Mr. Myers has three large Firecrafter felts from Camp Rota-Kiwan in the Fruitbelt Area Council (Kalamazoo, MI) that are from the late 1930s and that Mr. Myers has record of Firecrafter at Camp Pottawattomi in the Pottawattomi Council in Michigan City, Indiana. Camp Pottawattomi appears to have operated in the 1940s until about 1950, while Rota-Kiwan operated under various council names from 1921 until 1973. Matt has yet to contact Mr. Myers and further verify this information. M Mike Stalcup owns a three-inch orange felt patch with the Firecrafter emblem silkscreened in black that has been identified by old timers in Northern Indiana as being from the Camp Pottawattomi Fire that they remember. Firecrafter Frank Morrow also owns one of these patches.
Minisino Projectand
1958. It would seem logical that Firecrafter existed in the Whitewater Valley Council from at least the early 1930s (See Note 3) until at least 1958. It is possible that Firecrafter continued until the 1972 merger that formed the Crossroads of America council, but it was not very strong if this was the case due to the presence of OA Wahpanachi Lodge #308.
In 1990 one of the adult staffers up there (at Camp Tamarack in Jones, Michigan), a Firecrafter himself, approached the Council Committee about staying a Fire at Tamarack. I was council chief at the time, and we granted them a one-year charter, provided that all the candidates came down to Belzer that year for the ritual. They had 3 or 4 go through, and another 2 or 3 the next year, but we had concerns about the quality of the program and the feasibility of them pulling off Firecrafter successfully without the infrastructure of a council-wide organization, and in 1992 asked them to participate in the CAC program in lieu of their own.Russ Chorpenning, Alumni Association Treasurer, states that he believes that patches made in the current style with
Camperor
Woodsmanon top and just
BSAon the bottom probably came from this camp. Matt Baldwin has one of each of these patches in his personal collection.
Sioux Councilon top and
Campson the bottom. He traded for it at the 1950 National Jamboree.
Oinstead of a teepee. It might have just been a camp patch.