EOWG convened to consider public feedback on current work and progress on deliverables. First was a brief update from the co-Chairs about updates to the WCAG-EM report tool - there is a new prototype - and the need for translation. EO is asked to help reach out to their networks for translators and to review the prototype before the discussion on 4 Dec when Wilco will try to join the call. Eric next announced that public review of the QuickRef is open and he had made some minor changes based on feedback already received. EO is enocuraged to continue to reveiw and submit comments until 2 Dec. Brent and Shadi reported on progress of the Showcase Examples with video. They are in process of choosing a production company and any EO participants who want to review submitted samples, please contact Shadi. Consideration was next given to the comments on icon use in the planning resource.
EOWG resolved to use icons for top categories but not for individual activities.
When next considering the name of the planning resource, discussion did not result in a clear favorite. The question will appear as a ranking option on next week's survey. Also on the survey will be the opportunity to comment on the start of content development for the Initiate section. An additional survey, with a longer window for response, will be provided to approve publication of the changes made to the Getting Started Tips. Brent summarized the items for EO to expect on the surveys, cautioned them that the 27 Nov teleconference was only a 50/50 chance at this point, and thanked everyone for their efforts as the meeting adjourned.
<yatil> WCAG-EM Report Tool
Brent: Overview of tool and
purpose
... did usability testing at AccessU earlier in the
year
... some issues addressed, other still on hold... new prototype
available. Not everyone has
had time to consider Wilco's updates - therefore those survey questions will be extended
into next week
... Wilco and Shadi are hoping to be finished with updates in
mid-December. The question then becomes whether to - release then or wait?
... One opinion is that it is not a good time to release due to holidays, so prefer to make
announcement in early January. Others are eager to publish updates ASAP
David: have used the tool at client request
... and found some fundamental challenges in using it
... we could offer feedback
Sharron: yes please do - maybe to Wilco in private (and EO-Editors for the record) thanks for that suggestion, Andrew
<yatil> -> wai-eo-editors@w3.org
Brent: will be good to get
feedback from actual users
... thank you David
... any other comments?
... Wilco will try and be on Dec 4th call to discuss
updates
Brent: Translations - looking for
assistance to translate into non-EN languages
... initially from within EO, or to wider WAI-IG. Please look through your networks for potential people to reach out to for this purpose.
Eric: public review is open - some feedback is coming in
<yatil> https://github.com/w3c/wai-wcag-quickref/issues?q=milestone%3A%22Before+PR%22+is%3Aclosed
Eric: I have already made a few minor changes -
header height and some small visual changes
... better button naming
<yatil> https://github.com/w3c/wai-wcag-quickref/issues/new
Eric: It is now open for public review and of course EO is still welcome to contribute until Dec 2
Brent: please all look over and
make appropriate comment
... any other comments today?
... Thank you Eric of the work
Brent: Our task force has been creating stories and video
describing how accesisble features make sites and services much
more usable and will bring updates and Qs to
EO
... we hope to be finished by the end of end Q1 2016
... currently seeking a production company to create story
boards
... eight have been contacted and asked for samples that match what we're
trying to achieve - 4-5 responses received
... asking is larger EO was interested in helping to assess the
production companies and the submitted sample videos
... if anyone is interested, contact Shadi directly
... TF meets every Monday - on Nov 30, others welcome for
consideration of submissions
... any questions?
Andrew: will EO members be able to review and comment / provide feedback on the story boards?
<shadi> [[yes - for sure]]
<shadi> [[here is a preview of the the first script http://w3c.github.io/wai-showcase-examples/script1.html]]
<shadi> [[once it is more complete, EO will be invited to review]]
Brent: storyboards will have sketches and scripts that we will be able to provide feedback on
Brent: there comes a point where the production company effectively takes control as they move
into production
... hope there will be a point where EO can comment before
production starts
<shadi> [[production company will only film what EO says it should film]]
<Vicki> correct link: http://w3c.github.io/wai-showcase-examples/script1.html (closing bracket was too much)
Brent: any more comment?
<kevin> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/EOWG13Nov2015/results#xq4
Kevin: survey results re activity
icons
... explored the idea of including icons for the activites -
mocked-up some pages with icons for review
... general response was that they added too much clutter
Kevin: anyone pushing to support icons?
<davidberman> ok
Brent: lets take a few minutes to refresh what was proposed and the responses
<davidberman> done
<Vicki> done
<SusanHewitt> done
<Sharron> done
<yatil> done
Kevin: open for discussion
David: seems they are decorative rather than definitive - probably too many
<Vicki> +1 Andrew, top level
Andrew: think we should keep top level, but second level gets distracting
<SusanHewitt> +q
Brent: likes top level, but next level has less meaning
<kevin> http://w3c.github.io/wai-dynamic-planning/icons/initiate/get_familiar.html
<Sharron> agree with Brent that lower level icons distract from top category icons
Brent: when looking at the link provided, on the 'get familiar' page the mortar board icon does help tie short name with page title
Kevin: still need to address short names issues
Kevin: and more questions?
... no - propose we don't pursue icons for the activities
RESOLUTION: we will use icons for top categories, but not for activities
<James> +1
<Vicki> +1
<SusanHewitt> +1
<Brent> +1
+1
kevin: let's look at resource name
<kevin> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/EOWG13Nov2015/results#xq2
Kevin: pulled out and presented starting options in survey
<Sharron> I liked the "Blueprint" idea that Susan proposed
<yatil> Categories in the agenda
Kevin: presented survey offerings in Agenda by interpreted clarity of suggestions
<inserted> [[Reading Break:]]
# Clear options
Planning for (Web) Accessibility +
(Web) Accessibility Planning +
Planning and Managing Accessibility +
(Web) Accessibility Planning Guide
# Less clear options
Organizational Accessibility Activities
Accessibility Planning Procedure
Accessibility Blueprint
Addressing Accessibility Toolkit/Toolkit for Addressing Accessibility
# Didn't make the cut
Accessibility Practices
Accessibility Infuser
The Road Less Travelled
Create a Plan for Web Accessibility
How to Plan for Web Accessibility
Accessibility Strategy/Strategic Planning for Web(Digital?) A11y --
<davidberman> done
Brent: focusing on agenda summary - let's look at options
Kevin: didn't include all (late) suggestions
David: like the inclusion of
"web" and also "strategic"
... prefer "plan" to "planning" as we actually offer a
'plan'
<SusanHewitt> pointer...
<SusanHewitt> it's a guide as to how make a plan
Kevin: is it actually a plan, or just a pointer?
Vivki: likes planning as it's a whole process
David: yes - probably correct
Brent: we're offering an approach to planning, not a plan per-se
<shadi> +1
<Brent> I vote for NOT using the word "Web"
<davidberman> so I have been convinced that "Plan" is not right.
Andrew: quite happy to drop 'web' as it applies to more boarder digital accessibility
<SusanHewitt> good point shadi
Shadi: does 'web' help with SEO?
Eric: With the wealth of content on the pages, I don't think web makes a major difference for search engines, especially with more personalized search results.
Kevin: suggests a ranking survey
Q for this week and we can vote
... can reconsider having 'web' in title when we're clearer
about top choice(s)
<Vicki> good point shadi. i think we shouldn't overlook it. keep it on the burner as suggested by andrew
Kevin: will include first 4 from agenda and a few other later offerings
<Vicki> no problem: you're doing well kevin
<SusanHewitt> Kevin, can you briefly explain why the middle four are less clear?
Kevin: not sure about James' suggestion - might be to precise/prescriptive
James: happy if not included in vote
Kevin: will include a suggestion with "strategic"
Brent: thanks for going over all that and explaining the sorting and next steps
<kevin> http://w3c.github.io/wai-dynamic-planning/initiate/
Kevin: introducing as it will be
on the next survey to review content
... overview page and sub-pages
... will have to take a clean-up pass once we settle on final
page titles
... please comment via github, or via survey or via email
Brent: any questions at this
stage?
... will see survey Qs this week on Planning resource
Kevin: Seeking approval to publish recent
changes made. While they ahve been incorporated, the changes have not yet
published
... will put together a separate survey when all changes
are complete
... changes will be detailed in the survey
... prototype will include all changes. any questions at this
stage?
<davidberman> no immediatequestions from me on that
<Vicki> clear
Brent: lots in prep for this
week's survey
... WCAG-EM Report Tool
... Planning resource name
... Planning - initiate pages
... getting started tips
... and a reminder re Quikref that is out for public
review
... and contact Shadi if you'd like to review the Showcase
material
... still deciding if we'll meet next week - 50:50 at this
stage
Brent: anything else to raise this week?
<davidberman> I don't have anything to announce or bring up.
Eric: EO can comment on Quickref during public comment period, but will also get a chance to review the comments and make additional comment
Brent: yes, EO gets another
pass
... Ok - that's it for this week
... thanks for all your input today (and in the surveys)