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RDB2RDF XG Telcon

21 Nov 2008

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Attendees

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Present
Soeren Auer, Catherine Dolbear, Mike_Dean, Wolfgang Halb, Ashok_Malhotra, Prakash Manghwani, Orri Erling, Ahmed Ezzat, AxelPolleres, Satya Sahoo, Juan Sequeda, Sebastian Hellman (on IRC)
Regrets
Andrew Eisenberg, Paolo Boquet, Michael Hausenblas
Chair
Ashok
Scribe
juansequeda

Contents


 

 

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XG Logistics

Telcon on Nov 28 cancelled.

Next call will be Dec 5

Approval of Minutes

Minutes of Nov 7 are approved

Action Items

Michael started to work with Themis on use cases for ENS: http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/ReusableIdentifier

Michael will be scheduled for the next call to talk about ENS

Ashok will contact Bijan and Chris Bizer for their material

StateOfTheArtSurvey

We will have more discussion about Survey over email

<ssahoo2> Survey document URL: http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/StateOfTheArt?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=RDB2RDF_SurveyReport.doc

<hellmann> im here

<Ashok> Are you on the phone?

<hellmann> my microphone is not working

Presentation from Prakash Manghwani from BBN

<Ashok> Prakash's presentation http://asio.bbn.com/rdb2rdf/AsioRDB2RDF-1.ppt

<Ashok> Ontology http://asio.bbn.com/rdb2rdf/ds_ont.n3.txt

<Ashok> http://asio.bbn.com/rdb2rdf/ds_ont_map.n3.txt

Asio Parliament is a high performance triple store

Asio Scout is used for integrating hetergenous data sources

Each semantic bridge is a semantic cover.

the bridges takes the sparql query and translate it to the data sources natural format

i.e Relational Database Semantic Bridge translates SPARQL to SQL, and returns the relational data to RDF

There is an ontology for each data source

Orri: what happens if in a dept, there are different types of customers?

Prakash: besides the individual ontology, there is a domain ontology where SWRL is used for the mapping

Snoggle is a graphical tool that lets you write SWRL rules between data source ontologies and domain ontologies

Ashok: why create the data source ontology and map it to the domain ontology? why have this middle step?

The data source ontology could be reused

Asio Automapper extracts the data source ontology.

Asio Automapper is a direct mapping technique

All the transformation can be done in the semantic web space

SPARQL query is written intial. Semantic Query Decomposition uses SWRL to decompse the query and send it to each semantic bridge

What happens if two data sources return conflicting results?

Not part of Asio's scope right now

Automapper generates an ontology from the RDB schema, and also a "mapping ontology"

Autogenerated mapping file is based on d2rq

the mappings are from relational data types to xml datatypes

The configuration file overwrites what is in the relational schema

i.e if the schema doesnt have a FK, then it is implemented in the config file

<Ashok> <Ashok> Ontology http://asio.bbn.com/rdb2rdf/ds_ont.n3.txt <Ashok> http://asio.bbn.com/rdb2rdf/ds_ont_map.n3.txt

mapping is between the data source and the datasource ontology. this mapping is used by the bridge for the query translation

<AxelPolleres> Ijumped in late: can someone say in what sense is this SWRL mappings are different from Eric's canonical mapping and then map by SPARQL? (despite that the mapping SQL to RDF is nor canonical?)

With SWRL, it is query rewriting, and the rules are chainable, while that is not possible in SPARQL

<AxelPolleres> SWRL rules are chainable, which is not the case for the one-shot SPARQL mapping proposed by Eric... ok. got it

<scribe> New features of OWL 2 will enhance the capabilities of Automapper

Future Scheduling

Axel will present on Dec 5 about using RIF as the mapping language

Need to discuss Ivan's comments on the use cases

Need to comment on the Survey paper

<hellmann> bye

Summary of Action Items

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