07 Nov 2008

See also: IRC log


Andrew_Eisenberg, Ashok_Malhotra, Li Ma, Jenny Green, Axel_Polleres, Satya Sahoo, Juan Sequeda, Soeren Auer, Orri_Erling,
Wolfgang Halb, Michael Hausenblas
Ashok Malhotra
Satya Sahoo


Approval of Minutes

minutes for F2F (Oct 30, 31) approved

XG Logistics

no phone call Nov 14, next meeting on Nov 21.

Action Items

Ordnance survey use case sent out by Jenny

Bijan Parsia to send out OWL bibliography

RDF engine benchmarking by Chris Bizer. Chris to send mail to XG list.



Working on converting Wiki to a paper. Here is the outline:

1. Introduction a. The Problem of Mapping between Relational Data and RDF b. The Incubator Group Activity (XG) 2. Mapping Approaches a. Tools and Generic Solutions b. Domain-specific Applications 3. Survey Framework a. Components of the Survey Framework 4. Current RDB to RDF Mapping Approaches a. List of surveyed work 5. Discussions a. RDB2RDF and RDB2OWL 6. Conclusions 7. Acknowledgements 8. Reference List

Using RIF for Mapping

<AxelPolleres> I have prepared some 5 slides to explain the RIF liaison.

<Ashok> Axel's slides http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=RIF4RDB2RDF.pdf

Axel presentation on RIF for mapping


Many attempts to isolate cause of problem

Zakim could not detect any noise!

<AxelPolleres> it seems to be a more fundamental problem with the bridge then.

<AxelPolleres> should we continue via IRC chat at least?

<Ashok> I think we should abandon this call.

<Ashok> Please look at Axel's foils and the document I sent out

<AxelPolleres> shall we postpone the RIF discussion to next time? you migfht want to look at the slides and post opinions per mail

<AxelPolleres> My idea is:

<AxelPolleres> We should put on the charter proposal for a WG that such a WG should define a RIF dialect for describing RDB2RDF mappings.

<AxelPolleres> ... possibly with an own/adapted presentation syntax, but also with a RIF compatible XML syntax.

Axel could you please post these points in mail?

<AxelPolleres> yes!

<Ashok> Telcon abandoned due to phone problems.

Summary of Action Items

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