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Enigmatec |
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W3C Staff Contacts |
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Attendees:
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webMethods,
Inc. |
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University of
Maryland (Mind Lab) |
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TIBCO Software |
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Sun
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SeeBeyond
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Oracle
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Novell |
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Choreology Ltd |
Yaron Goland,
David Burdett, Abbie Barbir, Mike Champion, Martin Chapman
Anthony Fletcher (Choreology) volunteered to scribe.
The following is a list of recent scribes(inorder): Dinesh Shahane, Greg Ritzinger, Ed Peters, David Burdett, Ivana Trickovic, Ugo Corda, Assaf Arkin, MonicaMartin, Carol McDonald, NickKavantzas, Tony Fletcher, MayilrajKrishnan, Francis McCabe, Jeff Mischkinsky,David Burdett ,John Dart, Monica Martin,Tony, Fletcher, Jim Hendler, Kevin Liu, TonyFletcher, Jon Dart, David Burdett,Ed Peters, Greg Ritzinger, Monica Martin, LenGreski, Jean-Jacques Dubray,Monica Martin, Mayilraj Krishnan, FrancisMcCabe, Michael Champion, AbbieBarbir, David Burdett, Jon Dart, Carol McDonald,Yaron Goland, Leonard Greski,Ed Peters, Greg Ritzinger, Daniel Austin, PeterFurniss, Jim Hendler
Minutes 2nd December 2003
Minutes were approved
ACTION : chairs look at WSA issues process and recommend whether it should be adopted by this group. (IN PROGRESS, 1021, 1028, 1111,1118, 1125, 1202, 1209)
5. Standing tracking items (a section designed to ensure that longer running items are properly tracked)
Requirements – outstanding items
ACTION: Daniel to look though document and see whichrequirements we captured so far regarding transactions. (NO PROGRESS,1021, 1028, 1111, 1118, 1125, 1202, 1209)
ACTION: SRT to clarify use of “business transaction” using more neutral terminology if possible in section 2.1 (IN PROGRESS 1125, 1202, 1209)
ACTION: Editors of the requirements are directed to look at
the issues list and filter each issue in a similar way to the filtering method
used at the F2F. To be taken into account at editors meeting in
November. ( IN PROGRESS, 1021, 1028,1111, 1118, 1125, 1202, 1209)
Requirements Document FeedbackUri to latest draftNotes: Still to do:· Diagrams
· Review requirements classification
· Use case and requirements review against new use cases
o EAI Monica Martin usecase
o Barros usecase
It was noted that the group has
received a revision of the use case from Marco Adragna. It was agreed that we should look at
this during the face-to-face meeting to see if the requirements that it
illustrated were already adequately covered in the Requirements document or
whether indeed we needed to add this new use case and some new requirements.
ACTION: SRT to add Marcos’s use case to
agenda
Issue tracking (progress/review)
ISSUE: Security, ensure it’s covered in
an issue related to specifying policy/assertions.
Specification Editors report
ACTION: Nick to see if roles/participants
fit with forth coming meta model (IN PROGRESS for F2F 1202, 1209)
· Open Discussion/Review of Meta
Model
It was noted that David and Nick
have sent out a language model overview so we are under way! All members and
particularly those attending the face to face were asked to read and come
prepared to discuss it at the face-to-face meeting next week in Cambridge.
6. Liaison
WS-BPEL
ACTION:
chairs write a report for WS-BPEL technical committee prior to our F2F (IN PROGRESS
1125, 1202, DONE)
ACTION: SRT to update report to
incorporate Monica’s comments on report to WS-BPEL and send to Martin.
BPSS
ACTION: Chairs to get back
to Monica about the F2F w/ BPSS group. Include agenda in next call (IN
PROGRESS, 1125, 1202, DONE)
It was reported
that Monica has accepted the invitation to present the BPSS TC at the face to
face.
UN/CEFACT
Others
7. Hot topics
As this meeting
had only a small attendance, it was agreed that it would be inappropriate to
have any substantive discussion on technical issues and these were remitted to
the face-to-face and subsequent teleconferences.
ACTION: SRT to place the
hot topics on the agenda for the face to face.
Ed asked about
output from the formalism taskforce.
Steve replied that
the task forces were disbanded at the last face-to-face as it was felt they
could make little more progress at that time. For instance, it was noted that we could have asked the
formalism taskforce to provide operational semantics for the language, but it
was understood that that would take great deal of effort, or we could use their
expertise to inform the design and to try and make better design choices rather
than poorer ones.
Tony said that he
understood that the formalism taskforce had actually been suspended until a
base document was available rather than actually disbanded, so it may be
appropriate to revive it soon as we are now working towards a base language
specification.
Steve agreed with
this form of words and said that he was supportive of looking into this use of
formalisms, which is why he had invited Honda, Yoshida and Robin Milner to the
face-to-face.
· Choreography & orchestration must be defined in context first, last
· Intermediaries first, last
8. AOB.
Face-to-face
meeting
Steve said that he
needed orders for dinner on the 18th from those who had yet to submit them, and
that there would be no college meal available on the evening of the 16th.
Steve took an
action to put the hot topics onto the face-to-face agenda. It was noted that WSDL was now likely
to come out as version 2.0, rather than 1.2 as mentioned in the charter for
this group. There are likely to be
a number of substantive changes from the current WSDL 1.1 such as the removal
of features and properties, the removal of the message element, and also
setters and getters. Steve took an
action to contact Kevin Liu for his WSDL update slides and ask him to update
them with the current status if he possibly could.
Next meetings
Steve emphasised
that there would be no call next Tuesday evening (16 December 2003 ) as some
people would be travelling to the face-to-face. The next meeting of the group is the face-to-face in
Cambridge 17 - 19th December, 2003.
The next teleconference date has yet to be fixed but will probably be
the first Tuesday in the New Year.
Meeting ClosedNEW ACTIONS SUMMARY
ACTION: SRT to add Marcos’s use case to
agenda.
ACTION: SRT
to update report to incorporate Monica’s comments on report to WS-BPEL and send
to Martin.
ACTION:
SRT to place
the hot topics on the agenda for the face to face.