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<stuart> Zakim, this is WebCGM

<Zakim> ok, stuart; that matches GA_WebCGM(F2F)9:00AM

<stuart> agenda: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/2009/F2F/

<stuart> scribe: stuart

<stuart> Zakim, who is here? 

<Zakim> On the phone I see Dave

<Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, Rob, trackbot

<Zakim> + +1.303.252.aaaa

<Zakim> + +1.734.352.aabb

<stuart> Meeting: WebCGM nerd conference - Ann Arbor

<lofton> zakim, +1.734.352.aabb is AnnArborF2F

<Zakim> +AnnArborF2F; got it

<lofton> zakim, +1.303.252.aaaa is Dave

<Zakim> +Dave; got it

<lofton> zakim, +1.303.252.aaaa is Rob

<Zakim> sorry, lofton, I do not recognize a party named '+1.303.252.aaaa'

<lofton> zakim, Dave is Rob

<Zakim> +Rob; got it

<stuart> zakim, who is here?

<Zakim> On the phone I see Rob, Dave.a, AnnArborF2F

<Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, Rob, trackbot

<Zakim> +thierry

<lofton> zakim, Dave.a is Dave

<Zakim> +Dave; got it

<stuart> present: Rob, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, ulrich, forrest

<stuart> chair: lofton

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<lofton> look at agenda:  http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/2009/F2F/

<stuart> topic Welcome, Logistics, Week's events, Review agenda

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<stuart> Goals for this meeting 

<stuart> finalize 2nd LCWD processing 

<stuart> schedule CR spec production 

<stuart> finalize agreement on CR exit criteria 

<stuart> look at implementations and test suites ("test-fest") 

<stuart> plan & agree CR/PR schedules 

<stuart> (start) prepare CR transition materials 

<stuart> If time allows talk about what is next

<stuart> topic: Last Call processing

<stuart> any Last Call loose ends

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<stuart> We had one comment come in

<stuart> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009Aug/0013.html

<stuart> It was agreed that 2.7.2 is the prefered option.

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<stuart> lofton - do we need to have a informative pointer in 5.4?

<stuart> general consesus was no.

<stuart> resolution: update 2.7.2 with the proposed wording 

<stuart> Lofton will update the spec and Thierry will send a note 

<stuart> Lofton will update the spec and Thierry will send a note 

<stuart> lofton - Are there any other items that will impact the last call working draft.

<stuart> nobody could think of any.

<Zakim> -Dave

<stuart> <break>

<Zakim> -thierry

<stuart> </break>

<Dave> i'm here

<bbezaire> zakim, who's here?

<Zakim> On the phone I see Rob, AnnArborF2F

<Zakim> On IRC I see don, RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, stuart, Rob, trackbot

<stuart> me too

<lofton> zakim, Rob is Dave

<Zakim> +Dave; got it

<Zakim> +Dave.a

<lofton> zakim Dave.a is Rob

<lofton> zakim, Dave.a is Rob

<Zakim> +Rob; got it

<stuart> mime questions -- BB/cgz  and DC/cgm

<stuart> Do we need a special mime type for .cgz files?

<stuart> It looks like we will not need a special mime type for the compressed files.

<stuart> What about links into files?

<lofton> thierry, thanks for your email about mime.  A question Rob asked...

<lofton> it appears that SVG is not in the IANA registry.  SVG used the "new procedure" of...

<lofton> reference [5] in my email message -- registry template is included

<lofton> in SVG spec appendix from LCWD to REC, and that should 

<lofton> accomplish the SVG mime type registration.  Do you know why

<lofton> its not in IANA registry yet?

<Zakim> +thierry

<stuart> lofton - maybe we should add some text that by convention .cgm is used for uncompressed cgm files and .cgz is used to compressed cgm files.

<stuart> lofton - a statement warning about changing file extensions might break links

<lofton> yes, we are agreed -- I will replace the .cgz sentence in 2.4 accordingly

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<Rob> IANA register URL http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/

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<tmichel> can you please resent the IANA registration URI, I was logged off. Thanks.

<stuart>  IANA register URL http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/

<stuart> - final production of DoC document

<stuart> lofton will make the agreed changes to 2.7.2  and send them out around lunch time today

<stuart> rob - did we discuss updating the existing IANA registration for CGM?

<stuart> we wil discuss IANA registration until tomorrow morning.

<stuart> topic: Begin CR discussions...

<stuart> - CR Draft and Timeline.

<stuart> lofton - with the exception of the cover page the CR draft is almost ready.

<stuart> tmichel - the cover page is ready.

<stuart> we need to decide "when to publish"  it will be a function of when we will have the other stuff prepared.

<stuart> it can happen a couple days after a transition call with the director.

<stuart> It sounds like sometime the week of Sept 8th.

<stuart> Then we might be able to publish on the 10th.

<stuart> How long should CR be is the next question.

<stuart> lofton - it might take until sometime in October to be able to resolve the fate of the at risk items.

<stuart> we need to define the minimum amount of time that we remain in CR.

<stuart> lofton - we should probably have the minimum be four weeks.

<stuart> after CR exit the document will need to be updated and there needs to be a transition call.

<stuart> the driver is the implimentations.

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<stuart> We are not sure what we need for the exit criteria. 

<stuart> lofton - we have discovered a hole in the test suite and it may put some of the features at risk.

<stuart> if "should" is used in the implementation report then during the transisiton call we would need to discuss this with the director as to why we are different

<stuart> Breaking for lunch

<stuart> we will return in about 90 minutes

<stuart> When we return we will talk about the test suite

<Zakim> -Dave

<Zakim> -Rob

<Zakim> -thierry

<Zakim> -AnnArborF2F

<Zakim> GA_WebCGM(F2F)9:00AM has ended

<Zakim> Attendees were AnnArborF2F, thierry, Dave, Rob

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<stuart> We are back from lunch

<stuart> zakim, who is here?

<Rob> Suart, Zakim excused himself about 30  minutes ago.

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<stuart> zakim, who is here?

<Rob> Stuart, Zakim excused himself about 30  minutes ago.

<stuart> bummers, I guess I need to reinvite it 

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<Rob> Are you dialed in at the conference room?

<stuart> no we are not.  we can

<stuart> just a min - people are hunting down coffee.  we should start in a couple minutes

<Rob> OK.

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<stuart> We are dialing in now.

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<bbezaire> zakim, pointer?

<Zakim> I don't understand your question, bbezaire.