[1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Timed Text Working Group Teleconference 16 Aug 2012 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-irc Attendees Present sean, glenn, pal, tbm, mike, mmartin3 Regrets Chair sean Scribe mmartin3 Contents * [3]Topics * [4]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ Date: 16 August 2012 scribe: mmartin3 Present: pal mike sean mmartin3 tbm glenn TOPIC: Profile Update sean: review open issues ... Profile Update The Simple Online Delivery profile is focused on streamlined delivery of closed captions on the web. This interoperability profile supports core TTML features to deliver legacy formats such as CEA-608 and -708 content, and is targeted primarily for delivery in US markets. ACTION-80: ACTION-80 Create statement of use case and regional naming on SDP notes added [5]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Aug/0016.h tml [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Aug/0016.html ACTION: Glen [recorded in [6]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-minutes.html#action01] Sorry, bad ACTION syntax Update SDP to reflect addition to close ACTION:80 mike: Use term Internet rather than web. sean: Legacy formats, "deliver content originating from legacy formats." ACTION: Glenn [recorded in [7]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-minutes.html#action02] Sorry, bad ACTION syntax Close ACTION-80. ACTION: Glenn. Add 2 changes agreed. Use ACTION-80 text. Change "on the web" to "on the Internet." Change "legacy formats such as CEA-608 and -708 content" to "deliver content originating legacy formats such as CEA-608 and -708 content". [recorded in [8]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-minutes.html#action03] Sorry, couldn't find user - Glenn. TOPIC: Issues ISSUE-72 [9]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/72 [9] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/72 sean: Proposal may not make sense anymore. Review what makes sense for the 2nd edition. mike: Separate smooth scrolling. ScribeNicke: mmartin3 ScribeNick: mmartin3 mike: Dynamic flow sean: Not supported in TTML 1.0. We don't have scroll property any longer. Fixed mechanism exists - overflow. Missing text will overflow or be clipped by the box. Proposal suggests we re-add scroll property. mike: Need to address what happens when you have a
. sean: Some text will be clipped out. Allow animation using inline scroll (XSL-FO). To preclude lines missing from flow region. mike: In 2nd edition, we need to clarify feature and consider for TTML 1.1. sean: Clarifying paragraphs. ISSUE-138? ISSUE-138 Ruby support OPEN Standard extension to support W3C ruby markup sean: Renders may not be able to handle. Add to TTML namespace for 1.1. One option is to model more closely how this is done in HTML5 and CSS3. mike: SMPTE has feature list for theatrical subtitle support. This makes this Issue-138 real. sean: Important for internationalization. pal: Liaison will allow for SMPTE input to this question. OPEN ISSUE-156? ISSUE-156 -- semantics of missing #feature -- open [10]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/156 [10] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/156 mike: Bugs need to be addressed for 1.0 before we close this issue. sean: ACTION-53 and ACTION-54 closed. ... Mike can you re-forward some information? mike: Features overlapped. Other issues. sean: Work with Glenn. ISSUE-157? ISSUE-157 -- transformation profile -- open [11]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/157 [11] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/157 ISSUE-158? ISSUE-158 -- background images -- open [12]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/158 [12] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/158 Background images mike: Liaison sent to W3C April 2011 to add. Resurrect and make a decision what to do with SMPTE work. Should we reference 2052-1? sean: ACTION to respond to SMPTE. ISSUE-159? ISSUE-159 -- Text orientation in I18n script processing -- open [13]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/159 [13] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/159 sean: Missing some properties. In future, we may need to address this issue. Suggest add text orientation. ISSUE-162? ISSUE-162 -- profile discrepancy -- open [14]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/162 [14] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/162 sean: Skip for today. ISSUE-163? ISSUE-163 -- Clarify use of cell units in certain properties -- open [15]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/163 [15] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/163 sean: Use cell values where they do not make sense. ... Issue for 2nd edition. Clarify semantics. ACTION: Sean create clarifying text for 2nd edition. [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-minutes.html#action04] Created ACTION-84 - Create clarifying text for 2nd edition. [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-08-23]. ISSUE-167? ISSUE-167 -- allowing attributes that have no semantics on specific elements -- open [17]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/167 [17] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/167 mike: Attributes that are not inheritable and have no semantics on the child elements, we should prohibit them. Driven by origin and extent. ... TTML 1.1 issue. ISSUE-168? ISSUE-168 -- Padding on tt:p and tt:span elements -- open [18]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/168 [18] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/168 sean: Have each line as separate paragraph and caption. OK without user overrides which FCC requires. Add style properties to do this more directly. mike: Padding function on the line. sean: Add to

and . mike: What happens when you do an animation? Is this ambiguous. Will review further. ISSUE-169? ISSUE-169 -- Unclear under what terms the XSD schema is to be available -- open [19]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/169 [19] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/169 sean: We have resolved. Close ISSUE-169 ISSUE-169 Unclear under what terms the XSD schema is to be available closed mike: Software ... Resolution was software. close ISSUE-169 ISSUE-169 Unclear under what terms the XSD schema is to be available closed trackbot, end meeting Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Glen [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Glenn [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Glenn. Add 2 changes agreed. Use ACTION-80 text. Change "on the web" to "on the Internet." Change "legacy formats such as CEA-608 and -708 content" to "deliver content originating legacy formats such as CEA-608 and -708 content". [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: Sean create clarifying text for 2nd edition. [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2012/08/16-tt-minutes.html#action04] [End of minutes]