SML Teleconference

 

 

<Sandy> scribe: Zulah

Approval of Minutes from Aug 16 2007

Minutes 8/16 approved

Review of action items

<scribe> scribeNick: zulah

Triage bugs for milestone/keyword fields

Bug 4884 needs agreement

Bug 4628-30 will be discussed at F2F and then milestones will be chosen

<scribe> ACTION: John to put together the list of bugs with no target milestone that are still open (in order to provide a spreadsheet from which to start triage) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-sml-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-115 - Put together the list of bugs with no target milestone that are still open (in order to provide a spreadsheet from which to start triage) [on John Arwe - due 2007-08-30].

<johnarwe> rfc3987 - which parts rqd

<scribe> ACTION: philippe to look at RFC 3987 and find out which parts are mandatory [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-sml-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-116 - Look at RFC 3987 and find out which parts are mandatory [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2007-08-30].

Assigning needsAgreement bugs to owners

<johnarwe> 4632

Change 4632 owner to philippe

change 4663 owner to John

Change 4635 owner to philippe

Change 4636 to ginny

<johnarwe> 4657

Change 4657 to Kumar

Change 4665 to Pratul

Change 4665 from Pratul to Kumar

Change 4676 owner to John

No change to 4679

Change 4686 owner to ginny

Change 4743 owner to John

Change 4774 owner to Sandy

Change 4801 owner to MSM

Change 4819 owner to John

Change 4872 to needsAgreement

7. Schema Binding requirements from Sandy discussion

<Sandy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Aug/0053.html

8. Null references

<Sandy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Aug/0055.html

discussion on using optional elements in the example in the above email

<johnarwe> <alternate sml:ref'="true">

<johnarwe> <altprop1> foo </..>

<johnarwe> </alternate>

<pratul> Why does the producer say sml:ref="true" here?

<johnarwe> <alternate sml:ref'="true"/>

<zulah2> Scribe: zulah2

John: Do we think that there is enough value in having the concept of a null reference

general agreement

John: second question is whether sml: target Required=true should allow null references

Kirk: would like to see proposal in writing before agreeing to this

Discussion: we have a general discussion about what it means to have tergetRequired=true and then have a null ref. But this depends on how we define targetRequired=true.

John: If we use the following definition, if targetRequired=true then null refs are not allowed. And null refs are only valid when when targetRequired is false or not specified. Do we need some other semantic representation for Sandy's case.
... are there any objections to saying targetRequired=true prohibits null references

we have consensus

John: third case for discussion then is empty references
... is everyone commfortable with saying that we don't have empty references

<johnarwe> <alternate sml:ref'="true"/>

the scribe has a hard stop at 1

<johnarwe> <alternate sml:ref'="true" sml:null="true"/>

<johnarwe> will continue this via email

  Updated scribe list for next meeting
  
  Last Scribe Date  Member Name               Regrets pending
 
2007-06-13        Lynn, James 
2007-06-21        Gao, Sandy 
2007-06-28        Valentina Popescu         
2007-07-05        Brian You                 
2007-07-12        Wilson, Kirk               
200y-mm-dd        Vijay Tewari              through 8/20/2007
2007-07-19        Lipton, Paul 
2007-07-26        Kumar, Pandit 
2007-08-02        Boucher, Jordan 
2007-08-09        Waschke, Marvin
2007-08-16        Smith, Virginia           9/13 through 9/27   
2007-08-23        Eckert, Zulah 
2007-06-12        Tabbara, Bassam           Until 10/30/07
Exempt            Arwe, John                
Exempt            Dublish, Pratul           
Exempt            MSM 
Exempt            PH