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RIF telecon 19 February 2008

19 Feb 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
LeoraMorgenstern, Sandro, Mike_Dean, csma, Axel_Polleres, ChrisW, josb, AdrianP, Harold, GaryHallmark (IRC only)
Regrets
IgorMozetic, DaveReynolds, PaulVincent, HassanAitKaci
Chair
Christian de Sainte Marie
Scribe
Mike Dean

Contents


administration

approval of minutes deferred to next meeting

action review

423 continued

422 continued

421 done

420 continued, will send by tomorrow

419 done

418 done, but want to generate new versions of Wiki pages

417 done

416 done

415 done

413 continued, needed before F2F

412 done

411 continued

<josb> right

409 done

406 continued

152 continued

274 continued

liaison

<josb> no

adrian has not yet talked to XBRL folks

nothing to report on OWL WG

ChrisW: OWL compatibility 2pm Thursday so Mike can call in

issue 44

<csma> PROPOSED: to close issue 44 with no change to BLD (that is, keeping named arguments Uniterm in BLD).

csma: no objections to closing issue without changing BLD

ChrisW: would like to postpone
... should publish a standard means of translation, e.g. alphabetical, for round-tripping

<AdrianP> agree with Chris, we should publish a default strategy

ChrisW: resolution should make this clear
... uncomfortable changing it on the fly
... should be quick to resolve at F2F

josb: why do we need standard translation?

ChrisW: want to be able to tell people precise equivalence

<GaryHallmark> I join by IRC but have no telephone...

Sandro: let's you merge after translation

ChrisW: table until F2F

<AxelPolleres> Gary... named uniterm and resolution 44 currently being discussed again, suggestion by chrisw to postpone decision to f2f

F2F9

josb: 2 different front pages on Wiki
... couldn't find FLD on old page

<AxelPolleres> I'd suggest to remove all text there and ONLY have the pointer!

<AxelPolleres> (and make the page immutable)

<ChrisW> ACTION: cwelty to clear old wiki front page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-rif-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-424 - Clear old wiki front page [on Christopher Welty - due 2008-02-26].

csma: 12 or 13 people
... email regarding any special food requirements - no response - will include vegetarian
... foie gras is not vegetarian - tofu version doesn't taste the same
... lunch may include foie gras

csma; remote attendance?

mdean: yes

<AxelPolleres> :-)

csma: Dave Reynolds may also call in
... objectives posted on F2F9 page - finalize second public WD of BLD, etc.
... Jeff Pan asked for session about test cases - will add at end

josb: does BLD require FLD publication?

ChrisW: BLD completely depends on FLD

csma: item for discussion - synchronized at least for this publication

josb: agenda only talks about BLD
... could imagine some objections since this makes document harder to read

<scribe> ACTION: csma to modify F2F9 meeting page to include FLD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-rif-minutes.html#action04]

Sandro: conventions for latest snapshot
... confused about what versions people should be reading
... some changes since February 12 version
... email responses from editors don't answer questions
... color coded diffs helpful in review cycle - no need to repeat comments
... need to know when to freeze
... would also like to move to MediaWiki today so another round of reviews isn't needed

csma: Harold in Germany

ChrisW: Michael Kifer en route

csma: frozen version of OWL RDF
... still have review changes to PRD - should be able to freeze tonight
... or half an hour from now

josb: OWL RDF linked from email and reading list on old front page
... no changes since Wiki

Harold: some changes to FLD after freezing

Sandro: will make new version with color-coded diffs for FLD
... but not for OWLRDF or PRD

josb: OWL RDF already on MediaWiki

Harold: can move to MediaWiki now - need to alert Michael Kifer

sandro: will try to do today or tomorrow and send email to Michael

Harold: Michael should arrive in Paris early tomorrow

ChrisW: hold off pending confirmation in case Michael makes edits on the plane
... what about converting UCR to MediaWiki?

<AdrianP> let's discuss UCR during f2f

ChrisW: not being maintained

sandro: will wait for Michael for both BLD and FLD

<AdrianP> PRD is also already on the Media WIKI

sandro: PRD freeze in an hour or so, move later

AOB

Leora: willing to scribe for March 4

csma: informal telecon February 26 to recap F2F9 for those not present

adjourned

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: csma to modify F2F9 meeting page to include FLD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-rif-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: cwelty to clear old wiki front page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-rif-minutes.html#action02]
 
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