- From: Andy Seaborne <andy@apache.org>
- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 11:58:42 +0100
- To: public-rdf-star-wg@w3.org
james,
What do you think of the proposed text?
Andy
On 30/04/2026 11:26, James Anderson wrote:
> i try to keep my model of program behaviours simple.
>
> surrogate pairs appear as an element of the utf-16 encoding only.
> "just to recognize UTF-16 surrogate pairs as an alternative escape for Unicode characters that are not in the BMP" is to support an aspect of utf-16 which distinguishes it from the other encodings, which it to permit utf-16.
> utf-8 provides a different encoding for those which surrogate pairs would encode.
> that is what the recommendation should require.
>
> best regards, from berlin,
>
>> On 30. Apr 2026, at 12:19, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, that's part of the weirdness of the request. Turtle is UTF-8. RDF literals are Unicode character strings. UTF-16 doesn't appear at all. The request is to require Turtle processors, which may not use UTF-16 anywhere, to recognize UTF-16 surrogate pairs and turn them into Unicode characters.
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>> So it's not a requirement for Turtle processors to use UTF-16, just to recognize UTF-16 surrogate pairs as an alternative escape for Unicode characters that are not in the BMP. Which is weird because Turtle already has a better escape mechanism for these characters.
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>> peter
>>
>> On 4/30/26 5:18 AM, James Anderson wrote:
>>> the notion of surrogate pairs exists for utf-16 only.
>>>> On 30. Apr 2026, at 00:56, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe that this is at all what is being decided or even discussed.
>>>>
>>>> peter
>>>>
>>>> On 4/29/26 5:24 PM, James Anderson wrote:
>>>>> is the working group's intent to retain the restriction, that documents be encoded as utf-8 or to relax that restriction to permit utf-16?
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