See also: IRC log
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/att-0060/2007-08-07-dawg-minutes.html Aug 7 minutes
approved minutes, chimezie seconding
Meet next August 21 @ 14:30 UTC
chimezie claims to be sending regrets
ericP at risk next week
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to requisition /TR/SPARQL as a switcher document pointing to the real specs [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action03]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to run ASK tests 1, 4, and 7 by Aug 7 [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to ask CG about RDF/XML version of test suite [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to get rid of any distinct and ordered attributes [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action06]
<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to mark all tests approved in the 2007-08-07 meeting as approved [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: LeeF to update the EARL document and all manifest files to use manifest#testname URIs [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action09]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action10]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to answer "EBV of invalid numeric literals" email from Arjohn [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action11]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP to incorporate text to fix EBV of illformed numeric literals bug in spec [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action12]
<scribe> ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action13]
<scribe> ACTION: LeeF and ericP to write tests for uncovered facets [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action14]
<ericP> mail to iesg@ietf.org Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:00:01 -0400 Message-Id: <1186502401.4404.54.camel@localhost>
<scribe> ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action15]
<scribe> ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action16]
<scribe> ACTION: chimezie to write tests to cover missing algebraic forms as per [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-dawg-minutes.html#action17]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0056.html [DONE]
LeeF: Are we actually using any tests with mf:requires in data-r2?
open-world/manifest#open-eq-08
approved in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0082/2007-06-12-dawg-minutes.html
LeeF: We should ignore tests with mf:requires in generating an implementation report
ericP: implementors should not necessarily expect to pass tests with mf:requires
<iv_an_ru> I'm here, but I hear/not hearing periodically.
Orri: We are waiting for pointers to endpoints that we can try
LeeF: suggests testing against http://sparql.org/sparql
<iv_an_ru> There's an e-mail in public-rdf-dawg@w3.org
-> Ivan M soliciting SPARQL endpoints
-> tests to approve via SPARQL query
<http://w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/basic/manifest.ttl#bgp-no-match>
<http://w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/basic/manifest.ttl#prefix-name-1>
LeeF: Glitter and ARQ pass #prefix-name-1, Glitter passes both
PREFIX ex: <http://example.org/>
...
ex:
BASE <http://example.org/>
...
<>
<chimezie> BASE <http://example.org>
<chimezie> :bar
LeeF: The empty prefix needs to be explicitly defined
<ericP> ./algae --test "Non-matching triple pattern" --test "Prefix name 1" --manifest /home/eric/WWW/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/basic/manifest.ttl
PROPOSE: Approve both http://w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/basic/manifest.ttl#bgp-no-match and http://w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/basic/manifest.ttl#prefix-name-1
ericP, seconds
resolved
-> new ASK test
-> Query for most unapproved tests (needs updating)
ARQ, JXT, Glitter all pass the test
PROPOSE: Approve http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0065.html
chimezie, seconds
resolved
<iv_an_ru> Orri, I'm on Skype already.
iv_an_ru, can you run these tests?
iv_an_ru, if you can, please try these tests as we paste them in IRC and let us know if you're able to pass them
<iv_an_ru> yes
mf: name "Test literal 'true'"
PROPOSE: Approve http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest#dawg-boolean-literal
ericP seconds
resolved
iv_an_ru, we're now looking at the tests in expr-builtin
<iv_an_ru> dawg-boolean-literal is OK for me.
PROPOSE: Approve expr-builtin/manifest#dawg-isIRI, #dawg-isLiteral, #dawg-langMatches-basic
ericP seconds
resolved
Now looking at everything in expr-ops
<iv_an_ru> expr-builtin is OK for us except case-sensitivity of languages that should be fixed (known issue).
ARQ and Glitter pass all in expr-ops
Algae passes all but unary minus which is unimplemented
<chimezie> RDFLib passes all but "Less-than or equals"
PROPOSED: Approve all 7 tests in expr-ops/
chimezie seconds
resolved
iv_an_ru, can you next look at the tests in /cast/
<iv_an_ru> Looking now...
@prefix : <http://example.org/> .
:iri :p :z .
:str :p "string" .
:fltdbl :p "-10.2E3" .
:decimal :p "+33.3300" .
:int :p "13" .
:dT :p "2002-10-10T17:00:00Z" .
:bool :p "true" .
example query:
PREFIX: <http://example.org/>
PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
PREFIX xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>
SELECT ?s WHERE {
?s :p ?v .
FILTER(datatype(xsd:double(?v)) = xsd:double) .
}
<iv_an_ru> It's ok for us as soon as integers are in 64-bit limits :)
:fltdbl, :decimal, :int
PROPOSE: Approve the tests in /cast/
chimezie seconds
resolved
-> proposed tests for algebraic forms
Let's walk through http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/optional/manifest#dawg-optional-complex-1
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/optional/complex-data-1.ttl
PREFIX foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
SELECT ?person ?nick ?page ?img ?name ?firstN
{
?person foaf:nick ?nick
OPTIONAL { ?person foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf ?page }
OPTIONAL {
?person foaf:name ?name
{ ?person foaf:depiction ?img } UNION
{ ?person foaf:firstName ?firstN }
} FILTER ( bound(?page) || bound(?img) || bound(?firstN) )
}
first - pairs of bindings for ?person and ?nick for all but eve
second - optional adds a ?page for john
third - second optional adds a ?name and a ?img for alice and adds nothing for bert or john
<iv_an_ru> tests in /optional/ does not contain filters, esp. filters with variables not bound 'somewhere near', so they're not "dangerous".
fourth - filter excludes bert
<chimezie> should these be moved to their own directory then? complex-algebra or something like that?
LeeF: We'll finish and approve test suite next week. Just a few tests left to write and clean up.
<iv_an_ru> Bye.