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<SteveH> Regrets for the 10th
jeen: will be leaving current post and the DAWG as well
LeeF: leaving IBM. Continuing to chair DAWG
<Souri> Good luck to Jeen and Lee on their new jobs!
<LeeF> ACTION: chimezie and/or ericP to try running tests in data-r2/dataset and data-r2/graph and report results by July 10 [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action01]
<LeeF> ACTION: Eric+Andy: Collect all the testing feature URIs and put in the documentation [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action02]
<LeeF> ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action03]
<LeeF> ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action04]
<LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark approved sorting tests (1..10) as such [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action05]
<LeeF> ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action06]
<LeeF> ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action07]
scribe:XPath approach is difficult to express
<LeeF> action -7
<LeeF> ACTION: chimezie to go through manifests and generate algebraic forms using spec. syntax to compare with list in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0066.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action08]
<LeeF> ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action09]
<LeeF> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action10]
AndyS: what about Glitter?
LeeF: will continue to use it
LeeF: as for further
development on it (not sure)
... it is an opensource project
<LeeF> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action11]
LeeF: want to get an idea of holiday plans in August
LeeF: we don't want to drop the PR ball in August
LeeF: will have slightly smaller group in August but enough to proceed
<LeeF> construct tests
LeeF: ARQ passes these
SteveH: running them as we speak
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/construct/data-ident.ttl
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/construct/query-ident.rq
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/construct/result-ident.ttl
SteveH: problems with manifest and CONSTRUCT
<LeeF> take a look at:
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/construct/data-opt.ttl
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/construct/query-construct-optional.rq
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/construct/result-construct-optional.ttl
LeeF: look good from eyeball
jeen: we should indicate in the manifest that they are CONSTRUCT tests
LeeF: there is existing vocabulary for expressing this but is not being used
AndyS: similar scenario for sorting scenario
<LeeF> contains vocab for test types
<LeeF> dwagt:QuerySelect
<LeeF> dawgt:QueryConstruct
LeeF: perhaps we should use these
SteveH: would be consistent with syntax tests
<LeeF> dawgt:queryForm
<scribe> ... ongoing conversation about what is that dawgt Base URI binding ...
AndyS: it is in the wrong namespace and perhaps should be moved
<LeeF> ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action12]
<LeeF> PROPOSE: Approve the tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/construct/manifest.ttl, with LeeF running them successfully in the next two weeks
<LeeF> seconded by chimezie
AndyS: we shouldn't get too far ahead of implementations having problems with the manifest
LeeF: if we only have one implementation passing we will have to revisit anyway..
SteveH: abstains
<LeeF> approved, SteveH abstaining
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/
SteveH: can't process them
<LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to run the construct tests by 17 Jul [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action13]
<Souri> 16th
<Souri> no
LeeF: get in touch with other implementations not in the WG
<LeeF> ESW Wiki list of SPARQL implementations
<LeeF> not on the list - SteveH's
<SteveH> JXT
jeen: mine is not on the list either
<LeeF> sesame
<LeeF> ACTION: chimezie to post some early EARL test results to mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-dawg-minutes.html#action14]
jeen: parsing problem with graph-11
<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/graph/graph-11.ttl
<LeeF> []
jeen: newline in between BNode indicators ([ \n ])
<LeeF> (grammar definition is ANON ::= '[' WS* ']')
<LeeF> oh wait
<LeeF> that's sparql grammar :)
AndyS: fixed in CVS
jeen: able to run them now
jeen: passes some
LeeF: Base URI of manifest files should be used to resolve relative Test URIs
<Souri> a minor issue: in "Current Events" section at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ we are still saying: "released Last Call working draft of SPARQL Query Language for RDF 26 Mar 2007"
scribe: Base URI (on the web)
<Souri> my e-mail bounced, so I was not sure thx
<LeeF> for the record: lee's new email is lee AT thefigtrees DOT net
<LeeF> ("new")