<ericP> Scribe: KendallC

<ericP> andy, want to start up early and chat a bit?

the 4 level headings are a pain, IMO. how about promoting some stuff so there are only 4 levels, ericp?

<AndyS> Partial regrets: AndyS here until 15:00Z only

Convene, take roll, review records and agenda http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/weekly-agenda

<JanneS> I'm trying to call in - problems with skype (again). I'll be muted most of the time due to baby-sitting I have to do in parallel.

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005OctDec/0229.html minutes 15 Nov

ammendment: Souripriya Das was there

<ericP> hey!

<ericP> i was using that phone...

RESOLVED to approve minutes 15 Nov, noting older actions might be missing

<kendallclark> FWIW, I would have sent regrets if not for scribing. :>

<kendallclark> not feeling well

"29 Nov conflicts with a W3C staff meeting where DanC and EricP are expected; cancel?"

RESOLUTION: to cancel 29 Nov.

6 Dec conflicts with a TAG meeting; EricP to chair? scribe volunteer?

<kendallclark> 6 Dec conflicts with TAG meeting

<kendallclark> EricP chairing

<kendallclark> EliasT to scribe (with KC backing)

RESOLUTION: to meet next 6 Dec; ericp to chair; regrets DanC; Elias to scribe (or find scribe)

(hmm... should archive a text copy)

QL Conformance

. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#conformance
. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#conformanceB with "successful"

<kendallclark> I'm happy leaving that to various language communities, say.

<kendallclark> EricP prefers to mention APIs (in the protocol spec, presumably)

<kendallclark> Not mentioning API conformance doesn't help anyone, according to EricP

perhaps: Note that the SPARQL protocol describes an abstract interface as well as a network protocol, and the abstract interface may apply to APIs as well as network interfaces.

<AndyS> Conformance for SPARQL/Q = all of the doc ? DanC's text just moves that to via the protocol. Eric's use of "successful" really applies to a query *request* because it says "processed"

<kendallclark> can we move past what Eric wrote?

replay:

perhaps: Note that the SPARQL protocol describes an abstract interface as well as a network protocol, and the abstract interface may apply to APIs as well as network interfaces.

<kendallclark> (Late arriving regrets from YoshioF)

perhaps: apply to APIs or software modules ...

hasta, AndyS

issues#punctuationSyntax (decimal/double)

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to ask DaveB about turtle (in progress; almost done) [CONTINUES]. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: AndyS to update rq23 to reflect double => decimal progress/done. test impact? [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action02]

toward SPARQL QL updated WD

<kendallclark> Going to webmaster today or tomorrow

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to solicit review of SPARQL mime type(s) in ietf-types, esp after next QL pub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action03]

<ericP> http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype

<ericP> [[

<ericP> When doing the W3C Last Call announcement: Send an email to the mailing list ietf-types@iana.org asking for comments on the Media Type section of your specification:

<ericP> ]]

ugh... should say "at or before"

issues#wsdlAbstractProtocol

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2005Nov/0041 Double binding of a WSDL 2.0 operation

[[

The suggested work-round is to provide two separate HTTP bindings,

and therefore two separate endpoints, one for each HTTP method.]

]]

(don't expect The Director to do technical review, btw; The Director's job is to assess consensus once the community has done technical review.)

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] DanC to notifty DAWG of WSDL response to our WSDL comments. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: KendallC to propose revised WSDL descripton of SPARQL protocol [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: KC to review sparql-types for xs:any weirdness, w.r.t. WSDL 2.0 constraints [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: KendallC to remove uses of "my" in URIs in protocol spec [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action07]

Security Considerations

<scribe> ACTION: KendallC to add a modified version of http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#security to protocol editor's draft, as well as a pointer to the section in rq23 itself [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to coordinate W3C staff input on privacy section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action09]

<scribe> ACTION: PatH to review The Semantics of SPARQL [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action10]

<scribe> ACTION: PatH to sketch tests that characterize impact of semantics work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/11/22-dawg-minutes.html#action11]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/issues#rdfSemantics

<kendallclark> Which is super helpful of him, ;>

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2005Sep/0036 pfps's comment, including test case sketch

PatH will tell us how that test works

comment: SPARQL Results Format and Unbound Variables

<kendallclark> there's no normal xml!

<kendallclark> i think it's in 3 weeks, dan :>

ADJOURN.

<kendallclark> ADJOURNED