May 25 09:35:00 <DanC_>	Zakim, take up agendum 1
May 25 09:35:00 <Zakim>	agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review record, agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004AprJun/0447.html" taken up [from DanC_]
May 25 09:35:35 <DanC_>	Zakim, pick a scribe
May 25 09:35:35 <Zakim>	Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose HowardK
May 25 09:35:51 <DanC_>	Zakim, pick a scribe
May 25 09:35:51 <Zakim>	Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kevin
May 25 09:36:23 <DanC_>	Zakim, pick a scribe
May 25 09:36:23 <Zakim>	Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose DanielK
May 25 09:36:43 <DanC_>	Zakim, pick a scribe
May 25 09:36:43 <Zakim>	Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Farrukh
May 25 09:37:24 <DanC_>	Zakim, who is on the phone?
May 25 09:37:24 <Zakim>	On the phone I see DanC, Kevin, JanneS, HowardK, AndyS, Kendall_Clark, Yoshio, DanielK, Farrukh, Jean-FrancoisB
May 25 09:37:44 <Yoshio>	Oh, we miss EricP?
May 25 09:38:13 <kendall>	having no cvs makes the editor sad :>
May 25 09:39:45 <Zakim>	+TimBL
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May 25 09:40:55 <howardk>	howard scribing ...
May 25 09:41:07 <Yoshio>	we'd better wait for EricP?
May 25 09:41:29 <howardk>	kevin scribing next time ...
May 25 09:41:36 <DanC_>	Zakim, TimBL is temporarily EricP
May 25 09:41:36 <Zakim>	+EricP; got it
May 25 09:42:00 <DanC_>	EricP at risk for 1Jun
May 25 09:42:30 <DanC_>	Zakim, next item
May 25 09:42:30 <Zakim>	agendum 2. "Use Cases & Requirements Draft" taken up [from DanC_]
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May 25 09:42:42 <kendall>	http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/UsesCases.html -- latest draft of UC&R
May 25 09:42:57 <DanC_>	Zakim, who's talking?
May 25 09:43:09 <Zakim>	DanC_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: DanC (47%), EricP (13%), Kendall_Clark (15%)
May 25 09:43:19 <DanC_>	Zakim, mute EricP
May 25 09:43:19 <Zakim>	EricP should now be muted
May 25 09:43:49 <DanC_>	http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/UsesCases.html
May 25 09:43:52 <howardk>	uc 1.89 current but unavailable
May 25 09:44:10 <DanC_>	Latest Revision: $Revision: 1.89++ $ http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/UsesCases.html
May 25 09:44:16 <Yoshio>	I can see it
May 25 09:44:42 <ericP>	muted ericP can see 1.89++
May 25 09:44:58 <howardk>	only change from 1.89 -- 3.10 now has 3 choices for result limits 
May 25 09:45:08 <howardk>	andy doesn't like it
May 25 09:45:24 <howardk>	no response to anyone like it from danc
May 25 09:45:57 <howardk>	danc: seems to be lots of support for publishing. discussion?
May 25 09:46:19 <howardk>	andy: give dead man's hand to danc/kendall/ericp?
May 25 09:46:27 <howardk>	danc prefers no
May 25 09:46:58 <ericP>	i thought that was reversed (danc in favor of dead man's hand)
May 25 09:47:01 <howardk>	kendall: doc is in good shape quality-wise
May 25 09:47:13 <howardk>	can tweak 2.1 details after pub
May 25 09:47:43 <howardk>	kendall: doc has been stable for a week.
May 25 09:48:01 <howardk>	kendall:has been making easy changes
May 25 09:48:38 <howardk>	andy: email comment of commonality of graph-matching pattern not responded to
May 25 09:49:02 <Zakim>	+BryanT
May 25 09:49:13 <howardk>	kendall: didn't think that helped significantly
May 25 09:49:21 <ericP>	zakim, please unmute me
May 25 09:49:22 <Zakim>	EricP should no longer be muted
May 25 09:49:24 <howardk>	andy: it was added to 2.9
May 25 09:49:28 <--	bryan has quit (Ping timeout)
May 25 09:49:46 <ericP>	zakim, please mute me
May 25 09:49:46 <Zakim>	EricP was already muted, ericP
May 25 09:49:58 <howardk>	danc: bryan's review was thorough
May 25 09:50:03 <howardk>	bryan: would vote document up
May 25 09:50:08 <ericP>	zakim, please unmute me
May 25 09:50:09 <Zakim>	EricP should no longer be muted
May 25 09:50:26 <howardk>	danc: ericp, how are pub mechanics for this week?
May 25 09:50:34 <howardk>	eric: i'm avail until saturday
May 25 09:50:58 <howardk>	kendall: kendall back on monday after deadline, available then
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May 25 09:51:20 <ericP>	zakim, please mute me
May 25 09:51:20 <Zakim>	EricP should now be muted
May 25 09:51:30 *	ericP gets flight info...
May 25 09:51:31 <thompsonbry>	zakim, please mute me
May 25 09:51:31 <Zakim>	sorry, thompsonbry, I do not see a party named 'thompsonbry'
May 25 09:51:40 <kendall>	i'm available today, tomorrow, could do an hour or so on Friday, then available fully on Tuesday
May 25 09:51:59 <howardk>	kendall: title was changed as per danc's request
May 25 09:52:24 <Yoshio>	q+ to ask if we can still discuss after the publication
May 25 09:52:24 *	Zakim sees Yoshio on the speaker queue
May 25 09:52:34 <kendall>	+1
May 25 09:52:52 <ericP>	ericP's flight: 31-May 9:15 EDT -> 01-Jun 3:15 JST
May 25 09:52:53 <howardk>	resolved to publish
May 25 09:52:54 <ericP>	ues
May 25 09:52:56 <ericP>	yes
May 25 09:53:03 <howardk>	ericp to make it so
May 25 09:53:29 <howardk>	danc having dog problems ...
May 25 09:53:30 <ericP>	action: EricP publish use case document with Kendall
May 25 09:53:30 *	RRSAgent records action 1
May 25 09:53:36 ---	You are now known as Bo_Dog
May 25 09:53:38 <Bo_Dog>	+1 publish
May 25 09:53:39 <ericP>	zakim, please unmute me
May 25 09:53:39 <Zakim>	EricP should no longer be muted
May 25 09:53:40 <howardk>	barking in celebration ...
May 25 09:53:41 ---	You are now known as DanC_
May 25 09:54:10 <DanC_>	ericp: regrets 1Jun. [pls write down those times, ericp]
May 25 09:54:33 <howardk>	kendall proposes finishing up by thursday
May 25 09:55:00 <howardk>	danc: will try to finish by 31st may but no bets
May 25 09:55:07 <howardk>	danc: still having cvs problems
May 25 09:55:28 <ericP>	zakim, please mute me
May 25 09:55:28 <Zakim>	EricP should now be muted
May 25 09:55:45 <howardk>	danc: other discussion on publ?
May 25 09:56:15 *	ericP zakim, please unmute me
May 25 09:56:15 *	Zakim EricP should no longer be muted
May 25 09:56:31 <howardk>	yoshio: will discussion on doc continue?
May 25 09:57:05 <howardk>	danc: we'll certainly have ongoing discussion on issues
May 25 09:57:17 <JanneS>	q+ link to email archive from the document?
May 25 09:57:18 *	Zakim sees Yoshio, link on the speaker queue
May 25 09:57:29 *	ericP zakim, please mute me
May 25 09:57:29 *	Zakim EricP should now be muted
May 25 09:57:29 <howardk>	danc: best way to init discussion is send proposed text
May 25 09:57:45 <JanneS>	q- link
May 25 09:57:45 *	Zakim sees Yoshio on the speaker queue
May 25 09:58:01 <howardk>	danc: main reason for this publ is to invite feedback from outside
May 25 09:58:01 <JanneS>	q+ to link email archive from the document
May 25 09:58:01 *	Zakim sees Yoshio, JanneS on the speaker queue
May 25 09:58:35 <ericP>	yoshio, we have not voted on http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/UsesCases.html#r3.4
May 25 09:58:42 <howardk>	danc: those w/ big feedback invited to join wg
May 25 09:58:54 <howardk>	danc: we need to get careful on last call
May 25 09:59:03 <howardk>	danc: and show response to every comment
May 25 09:59:27 *	ericP zakim, please unmute me
May 25 09:59:27 *	Zakim EricP should no longer be muted
May 25 09:59:30 <howardk>	danc: eric -- who's suscribed to comments list?
May 25 09:59:39 <howardk>	ericp: just Kendall
May 25 09:59:45 *	ericP zakim, please mute me
May 25 09:59:45 *	Zakim EricP should now be muted
May 25 09:59:58 <howardk>	danc: unlikely to subscribe to comments list
May 25 10:00:20 <howardk>	danc: commenters will send comments; we're obliged to answer
May 25 10:00:47 <howardk>	danc: if comment is substantive, whole wg should discuss
May 25 10:01:15 <howardk>	danc: some subscribers need just to pass comments on to group
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May 25 10:01:29 <howardk>	kendall: if comments are small, I'll handle, otherwise pass them on
May 25 10:01:37 <howardk>	danc: it's polite to say "interesting. thanx"
May 25 10:01:47 <howardk>	danc: who wants to be subscribed?
May 25 10:01:52 <howardk>	+ andy
May 25 10:01:52 *	Zakim saw AndyS arrive 30 minutes ago
May 25 10:01:57 *	ericP zakim, please unmute me
May 25 10:01:57 *	Zakim EricP should no longer be muted
May 25 10:02:16 <howardk>	andy ok's
May 25 10:02:23 <ericP>	neither do i
May 25 10:02:42 <ericP>	after a moment of research...
May 25 10:03:05 <howardk>	janne: will there be link to email archive?
May 25 10:03:11 <JanneS>	q-
May 25 10:03:11 *	Zakim sees Yoshio on the speaker queue
May 25 10:03:13 <howardk>	kendall: assumes so
May 25 10:03:16 <Yoshio>	q-
May 25 10:03:17 *	Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
May 25 10:03:24 <DanC_>	"auto_subscribe =	yes"
May 25 10:03:29 <DanC_>	-- http://cgi.w3.org/team-bin/MailingListQuery.pl?queryList=public-rdf-dawg-comments
May 25 10:03:36 <howardk>	question of auto-subscription under investigation
May 25 10:03:55 <howardk>	danc: people encouraged to subscribe but not demaned
May 25 10:04:00 <howardk>	demanded ...
May 25 10:04:09 <DanC_>	Zakim, next agendum
May 25 10:04:09 <Zakim>	agendum 3. "Additional Use Cases" taken up [from DanC_]
May 25 10:04:10 <howardk>	danc: other process questions
May 25 10:04:11 <howardk>	no
May 25 10:04:27 <DanC_>	ACTION DaveB: write up this educational metadata UC (continues)
May 25 10:04:27 *	RRSAgent records action 2
May 25 10:05:14 <howardk>	kendall: nick gibbons uc was forward to list. questions what to do
May 25 10:05:28 <howardk>	danc: let's take up after this publ
May 25 10:05:40 <howardk>	danc: that makes 2
May 25 10:05:49 <howardk>	kendall: plus a few tweaks i've put off for now
May 25 10:05:50 <DanC_>	Zakim, next agendum
May 25 10:05:50 <Zakim>	agendum 4. "Requirements" taken up [from DanC_]
May 25 10:06:04 <ericP>	i can confirm that people can subscribe by mailing public-rdf-dawg-comments-request Subject: subscribe
May 25 10:06:23 <DanC_>	ACTION Kendall: consider larger comments from Brian
May 25 10:06:23 *	RRSAgent records action 3
May 25 10:06:38 <DanC_>	ACTION 3 = Kendall: consider larger comments from Brian, Yoshio
May 25 10:06:38 *	RRSAgent records action 3 replaced
May 25 10:07:01 <howardk>	kendall: wants requested tweaks from bryan, yoshio on agenda
May 25 10:07:01 <howardk>	kendall: to take up post-publ
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May 25 10:07:30 <thompsonbry>	q?
May 25 10:07:30 *	Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
May 25 10:09:37 <ericP>	ericP volunteers to take RDQL
May 25 10:09:50 <ericP>	(two weeks)
May 25 10:11:45 <thompsonbry>	q?
May 25 10:11:45 *	Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
May 25 10:11:48 <AndyS>	ACTION AndyS, Review SeRQL
May 25 10:11:54 <DanC_>	Zakim, next agendum
May 25 10:11:54 <Zakim>	agendum 5. "Test materials" taken up [from DanC_]
May 25 10:12:07 <thompsonbry>	ACTION thompsonbry, Review joseki
May 25 10:12:19 <kendall>	http://www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/WBS/pha/rdf-query/
May 25 10:12:23 <DanC_>	ACTION SteveH: to draft and maintain a list of test sketch cases, including x < y, x < 18. (some progress; continues)
May 25 10:12:23 *	RRSAgent records action 4
May 25 10:12:29 <kendall>	A Comparison of RDF Query Languages
May 25 10:12:37 <ericP>	ACTION ericP, review RDQL with respect to the requirement in http://monkeyfist.com/kendall/UsesCases
May 25 10:12:56 <ericP>	2nd
May 25 10:13:08 *	AndyS happy we are publishing!
May 25 10:13:13 <kendall>	yes
May 25 10:13:16 <Zakim>	-Farrukh