Rich Schwerdtfeger
Léonie Watson ---06/19/2015 06:46:57 AM---> From: James Craig [mailto:jcraig@apple.com] > Sent: 19 June 2015 10:43
From: Léonie Watson <lwatson@paciellogroup.com>
To: "'James Craig'" <jcraig@apple.com>, "'WAI Protocols & Formats'" <public-pfwg@w3.org>
Date: 06/19/2015 06:46 AM
Subject: RE: ARIA 1.1: Deprecate @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect
> From: James Craig [mailto:jcraig@apple.com]
> Sent: 19 June 2015 10:43
> In an effort to reduce the author complexity of ARIA, I'd like to propose
the
> spec's first deprecations: @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect.
+1
[...]
> Accessible drag & drop is a feature that may be better left to native
> implementations. It could potentially be solved by some future version of
> ARIA, but I do not believe @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect do the job.
> It's a bad API that should be culled from the 1.1 spec.
Do you think it would be worth proposing an HTML5 extension for this?
>
> In case there is any objection: I could be convinced to drop the call for
> deprecation if anyone can point to a single real-world web application
(not a
> test case) that works well in any browser+screenreader combo. The example
> should use @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect accurately in conjunction
> with native or scripted drag and drop behavior.
Even in test cases using ARIA to spec, I haven't yet found an example that
works reliably across all (or even most) browser/AT combinations.
Léonie.
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Léonie Watson - Senior accessibility engineer
@LeonieWatson @PacielloGroup PacielloGroup.com