Re: Second International Symposium on Invisible XML

Wendell Piez <wapiez@wendellpiez.com> writes:
> Norm's non-standard curly-braces emission feature does not disqualify his processor from being an iXML processor, as
> conformance does not require that no optional features be offered.

I have always been very clear that NineML has features that are non-conformant. Output of JSON and CSV are among them. I am sometimes reluctant to add nonconformant features because I don’t want to spread confusion about what a thing actually is.

> You did not say it did -- but neither have I proposed that
> iXML be removed from the name of iXML,

Didn’t you? I thought you did. Or maybe you just supported someone else’s proposal that it should be removed.

> I can agree with everything in your latest email, and still not agree that putting "iXML" into the title of the conference is an
> open-and-shut case with an obvious answer. Even for an iXML conference!

If it was open and shut, I don’t think this thread would be ongoing.
On balance, the consensus position as I see it is that we might want to move it into a subtitle. In my mind, that’s more about the fact that it gives us an opportunity to say something like “and beyond”, than anything else.

> So let me put it more bluntly: should I feel welcome at the
> iXML conference, if my work is with a non-XML technology, or even a workalike (rival) technology to iXML?

Of course you should. I mean, if you want to come and give a paper about iWPML that is kind of like iXML but better, I’ll happily listen. 

I’m baffled by the back-and-forth on this issue.

> I mean, your answer might be "no, you are not really welcome". But imagine if one or two important JSON influencers had come
> to an XML conference when it might have made a difference. I doubt there would be less JSON, but there might be less
> stupidity.

Hindsight being 20/20, I think there were missed opportunities for a more harmonious world. But I fear lots of “influencers” make bank on controversy, not cooperation, so they wouldn’t be my first port of call for mutual understanding.

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Norm Tovey-Walsh
Saxonica

Received on Friday, 21 August 2026 17:40:05 UTC