- From: Yasuo Kida <kida@mac.com>
- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2026 07:14:29 -0700
- To: MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>
- Cc: r12a <ishida@w3.org>, W3C JLReq TF <public-i18n-japanese@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <F5CD6B57-BD86-42B4-85DC-9A3A986DBA3D@mac.com>
> I strongly believe that the lack of a perfect, fully automatic transformation should not be used as a reason not to introduce switching between vertical and horizontal writing modes. I know that some Japanese users with dyslexia have very serious difficulties with vertical writing. > +1 >> I would also note that switching between horizontal and vertical is not a simple thing. For example, except for some font-specific alterations, certain punctuation marks need to be changed for horizontal vs vertical rendering. This transform was mentioned as a possibility for an additional property for text-transform. https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/494 Thanks, - kida > 2026/09/03 6:18、MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com>のメール: > > Richard, > > 2026年9月3日(木) 19:57 r12a <ishida@w3.org <mailto:ishida@w3.org>>: >> I concur. Say ‘writing mode’ or ’text direction’, rather than ’text orientation’. >> >> Note also that there is a typo: veritical > > Thanks. > >> >> I would also note that switching between horizontal and vertical is not a simple thing. For example, except for some font-specific alterations, certain punctuation marks need to be changed for horizontal vs vertical rendering. > > I know this issue well. These articles (in Japanese) are lengthy, but they provide a thorough discussion of the issue. > > https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/johokanri/42/6/42_6_523/_pdf > https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/johokanri/42/7/42_7_611/_pdf > https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/johokanri/42/8/42_8_708/_pdf > https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/johokanri/42/9/42_9_801/_pdf > > Some of these issues can be addressed by enhancing the CSS transform property. However, it is not possible to make all such adjustments completely automatic. > > I strongly believe that the lack of a perfect, fully automatic transformation should not be used as a reason not to introduce switching between vertical and horizontal writing modes. I know that some Japanese users with dyslexia have very serious difficulties with vertical writing. > > Regards, > Makoto > > >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From "MURATA" <eb2mmrt@gmail.com <mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com>> >> To "W3C JLReq TF" <public-i18n-japanese@w3.org <mailto:public-i18n-japanese@w3.org>> >> Date 01/09/2026 10:51:23 >> Subject Text orientation controllable?? >> >>> 皆さん、 >>> >>> きのうもきょうも聞くのをすっかり忘れてました。 >>> >>> WCAG 3に、a11y-req-jaを見て、縦書き・横書きの切り替えができることという要件が入ってます。 >>> >>> Text orientation controllable <https://deploy-preview-824--wcag3.netlify.app/informative/text-and-wording/text-appearance/text-orientation-controllable/> >>> >>> しかし、text orientationというと縦書きの中で欧文を正立させるか右に倒すかの話でしょう。writing modeがJLreqでもCSS Writing Modeでも採用されている用語なので、それに置き換えるべきだと思います。 >>> >>> この置き換えを、JLTFの確認を取ったと報告していいですか? >>> >>> 村田 真 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> 東日本国際大学客員教授 >>> 村田 真 > > > > -- > -- > 東日本国際大学客員教授 > 村田 真
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