From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
To: "Philippe Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org)" <plh@w3.org>, Brett Smith
	<brett@w3.org>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>
CC: sysreq <sysreq@w3.org>
Subject: BOUNCED MESSAGE: FW: ISSUE-204: aria-hidden - Straw Poll for
 Objections
Thread-Topic: BOUNCED MESSAGE: FW: ISSUE-204: aria-hidden - Straw Poll for
 Objections
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:30:33 +0000
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Once again a message from me to public-html-a11y@w3.org has bounced.  Can y=
ou please help get this message thru?

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329


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FYI.

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329

From: Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:18 AM
To: public-html@w3.org
Subject: ISSUE-204: aria-hidden - Straw Poll for Objections

ISSUE-204: aria-hidden - Straw Poll for Objections
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204

The HTML WG has not reached consensus on how to exempt ARIA attributes from=
=3D  the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements.

The poll is available here and it will run through Fri Aug 3:
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-204-objection-poll/

Please read the introductory text before entering your response.

In particular, keep in mind that you don't *have* to reply. You only need t=
=3D o do so if you feel your objection to one of the options is truly stron=
g, a=3D nd has not been adequately addressed by a clearly marked objection =
containe=3D d within a Change Proposal or by someone else's objection. The =
Chairs will =3D be looking at strength of objections, and will not be count=
ing votes.

/paulc
HTML WG co-chair

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329


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pan></p> <p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">Tel: (425) =
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ul Cot=3D ton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 27, 2012 10:18 AM<br> <b>To:</b> public-html@w3.o=
rg<br> <b>Subject:</b> ISSUE-204: aria-hidden - Straw Poll for Objections<o=
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">ISSUE-204: aria-hidd=
en -=3D  Straw Poll for Objections<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black"><a href=3D3D"http://www.w3=3D .org/htm=
l/wg/tracker/issues/204">http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/2=3D
04</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan>=3D
</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">The HTML WG has not =
reac=3D hed consensus on </span><span lang=3D3D"EN" style=3D3D"color:black"=
>how to exempt ARIA attribute=3D s from the rule that prohibits reference t=
o hidden elements</span><span sty=3D le=3D3D"color:black">.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan>=3D
</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">The poll is availabl=
e he=3D re and it will run through Fri Aug 3:<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p clas=
s=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black"><a href=3D3D"https://www.w=
=3D 3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-204-objection-poll/">https://www.w3.org/2=
002/=3D
09/wbs/40318/issue-204-objection-poll/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></s=
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">Please read the intr=
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lass=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
=3D
</p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">In particular, keep =
in m=3D ind that you don't *have* to reply. You only need to do so if you f=
eel your=3D  objection to one of the options is truly strong, and has not b=
een adequate=3D ly addressed by a clearly marked objection  contained withi=
n a Change Proposal or by someone else's objection. The Cha=3D irs will be =
looking at strength of objections, and will not be counting vot=3D es.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=3D
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">/paulc<o:p></o:p></s=
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">HTML WG co-chair<o:p=
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">Paul Cotton, Microso=
ft C=3D anada<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
3D"color:black">17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa=3D , Ontario K2E 6A3<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p> <p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:black">Tel: (425) =
705-9596 Fax:=3D
 (425) 936-7329<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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