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Re: Leading the Forefront - with IRC ! ?

From: Marcos Caceres <m.caceres@qut.edu.au>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:27:25 +1000
Message-ID: <b21a10670703240027r7ede90aay4aee76932986c7b0@mail.gmail.com>
To: work@gavinpearce.co.uk
Cc: "Luka Kladaric" <allixsenos@gmail.com>, "Tim Brown" <tim@tbrown.org>, public-html@w3.org

On 3/23/07, Gavin Pearce <work@gavinpearce.co.uk> wrote:
> Agree with the below, just because something worked in the past, doesn't
> mean it's right for the future. So far things seem a mess. Can anyone truly
> tell me exactly what stage we are at, every idea we have had already, and
> peoples views on that idea?
> It would be good, for example, to be able to go back and look at everyone's
> comments on <abbr>, without picking through my inbox.

Maybe you could try gmail, it does exactly this.

> As I said, I'm quite happy to set anything up if anyone wants to lend a hand
> with the chairs permissions.
> OK IRC can stay, maybe I was a bit hasty there, personally I'm not a fan, it
> is dated, but it works I agree.
> The email list can stay, but as per above, as it stands, does anyone really
> know what's going on for certain? This is the future of the web we're
> talking about, and we're handling it using tech from the past.
> We all know the W3C is famous for "setting an example" with its accessible
> and compliant website that yet is so poor for common usability. I just think
> maybe it's time to try something new. Keep the emails flowing, just make
> them more organized. A PHP based testing server where we could setup like,
> for example, a dynamic to-do list, etc ... you can't deny it wouldn't be a
> good idea. Perhaps.

Sounds like we could spend more time doing the above than actually
writing the spec.

> But to prove my point? Can anyone effectively answer the above? Tell me
> every idea we've discussed and what point we are at with each. So if I
> wanted to add to the abbr I could.

I can with gmail.

> Difference between a this mailing list and a move advanced one is user
> options, better online viewing and organization, to-do lists etc etc ..
> The wiki is a wiki, yea it'l doo the job, but so will a different way.
> Why are we so worried to try something new?

I don't think it's a problem... but the working group is chartered to
write a spec, not to try out new technologies and figure out new
effective ways to collaborate. As far as I can see, the infrastructure
for effective collaboration is in place (mailing list, IRC, WHATWG
wiki, blog, and resources, etc).

> Sorry for the mess - just a collection of ideas as I think through.
> - Gavin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Luka Kladaric
> Sent: 23 March 2007 11:31
> To: Marcos Caceres
> Cc: Tim Brown; work@gavinpearce.co.uk; public-html@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Leading the Forefront - with IRC ! ?
> "gotten the job done in the past..."
> so has HTML4...
> --
> The geek shall inherit the earth.

Marcos Caceres
Received on Saturday, 24 March 2007 07:27:30 GMT

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