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<scribe> Scribe: DanC
RESOLUTION: to approve minutes 22 Nov http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Nov/att-0096/22-grddl-wg-minutes.html
DanC: regrets 13 Dec due to TAG meeting
RESOLUTION: to meet again 13 Dec; Brian M to scribe
<scribe> ACTION: Fabien to add a sentence about non-XML HTML in the Use Case document [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
DanC: I'd like to actually have a tidy use case, with caveats
<scribe> ACTION: Fabien to add a tidy/tag-soup use case/paragraph, with caveats [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
FG: how to say it?
DanC: we don't have to write a
formal spec; just a story...
... one guy forgot a / in his <br />; it worked; for
another guy, it didn't work
<scribe> ACTION: Chime to verify http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#projectsSpreadsheet [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
DanC: see http://chatlogs.planetrdf.com/swig/2006-11-30.html#T03-25-10
... I suggest discussion of title_author isn't done
PROPOSED: to approve http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/testlist1#rdfa1 (http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/rdf_sem.html http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/rdf_sem-output.rdf )
lack of critical mass.
<scribe> ACTION: bwm to review testlist1#rdfa1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
Chime http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Dec/0005.html
<scribe> ACTION: HH to respond to Chime, clarifying song/album and discussing bNode vs URI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<Zakim> FabienG, you wanted to ask aboout a teste case with SAWSDL
DanC: a SAWSDL test case sounds great; then we can look at whether it merits screenspace as a use case
HH: status of SAWSDL?
FG: last call WD
... since 28 Sep
<scribe> ACTION: FG to make a SAWSDL test sketch [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<scribe> ACTION: DanJa to provide XSLT transformation from Atom to N3,and one case where it works [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<bwm> ScribeNick: bwm
danc: there is an atomOwl
testcase
... it requires taking text and inferring its n3
... would be cleaner to use a mime type
... but there isn't one
... tim is encouraging us to use the mime type on the
assumption it will be registered
... that may be a good idea
... not sure we can approve the test case
... issue of whether the xslt case is suffciently well
specified
brian: what about other scripting languages
FabienG is excused
scribe: we could output a wrapper
danc: that doesn't help with the motivating use cases
brian: ok
<DanC> PROPOSED: to resolve issue-output-formats by (1) adding formal rules to cover the case of of the XSLT 1.0 and RDF/XML (2) to allow other output formats as exemplified by the Atom/turtle test case
RESOLUTION: to resolve issue-output-formats by (1) adding formal rules to cover the case of of the XSLT 1.0 and RDF/XML (2) to allow other output formats as exemplified by the Atom/turtle test case
<DanC> ACTION: DanC to write rules about XSLT 1.0 processing context [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<DanC> ACTION: DanC to add N3/turtle mime type to Atom/turtle test case. noting the unregistered status [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<DanC> ScribeNick: DanC
Ian: anybody know of N3 registration status?
DanC: it's been discussed recently in a W3C/IETF telcon; tim sorta has the ball
HH: we could push that in the CG
<scribe> ACTION: HH to poke semweb cg re N3 media type registration [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<scribe> ACTION: bwm to have a closer look at the Stephen King Example in the spec. [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
HH: Happy with the new MusicBrainz example?
BWM: Hendrix the person vs the experience?
DanC: it's a group with 3 people
<scribe> ACTION: Danja to suggest wording changes in light of recent comment on cross-document introduction [WITHDRAWN] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<scribe> ACTION: Ian to reconsider comments on cross-document introduction [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<scribe> ACTION: Murray to write up the pros and cons of different approaches [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<DanC_> XInclude or not
<scribe> ACTION: HH to integrate Murray's XInclude test case sketch into the test collection [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
BWM: imagine d.xml -> t.xslt ;
t.xslt produes { a b c. d e f. } regardless of input...
... is { a b c } a grddl result?
DanC: no, not per current editor's draft
<DanC_> Issue-base-param: do we need the parameter? McBride, Brian (Thursday, 30 November)
BWM: is this approach OK?
HH: sounds good
<scribe> ACTION: BWM to produce ~3 test cases for #issue-base-param [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<scribe> ACTION: Harry and Brian to rewrite second part of primer to use Brian and Dan's instance data. [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
HH: I have done all but check the
stuff in
... I need to double-check the SPARQL queries
DanC: I've thought about taking the primer examples and putting them in the test suite...
<scribe> ACTION: IanD to integrate primer examples into test suite [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<scribe> ACTION: DanC to create a "normative only" view of the GRDDL spec. [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
see http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec_lean
<scribe> ACTION: DanC to add a sample implementation appendix to the GRDDL spec. [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec#implExp
DanC: RDFa timing is tricky
... http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec#issue-html-nsdoc
is new
IanD: a month slip is comfortable-ish, but let's not slip into "spring"
Brian: GRDDL is important, so I
can probably stick around for a while...
... yeah... sending some "done" signal at WWW2007 in May
<scribe> ACTION: iand to construct a content negotiation test case [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<scribe> ACTION: DanC to enumerate options for base issue, pick one, and propose it in the form of a test case. [WITHDRAWN] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
<scribe> ACTION: chime to help danc with test cases on base param issue [WITHDRAWN] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/06-grddl-wg-irc]
DanC: [post-script-ish] so last
call in Dec/Jan, and PR before May sounds about right.
... if the 1st last call wins, we could even get REC before
May.