W3C

Device APIs Working Group Teleconference

18 Feb 2016

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Frederick_Hirsch, Andrey_Logvinov, Anssi_Kostiainen
Regrets
Tobie_Langel, Dominique_Hazael-Massieux
Chair
Frederick_Hirsch
Scribe
fjh

Contents


<scribe> ScribeNick: fjh

Welcome, scribe selection, agenda review, announcements

fjh: Privacy call (PING) to discuss Vibration API, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016JanMar/0026.html

Minutes approval

<anssik> +1 to approve

Approve minutes from 4 Feb 2016, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Feb/att-0035/minutes-2016-02-04.html

RESOLUTION: Minutes from 4 Feb 2016 are approved, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Feb/att-0035/minutes-2016-02-04.html

Generic Sensor API

fjh: Tobie not on call so not much to discuss

anssik: tobie will put out update by this month, also ambient light
... also publish updated WD
... cannot automate it yet

fjh: WD update
... need prepared editors draft including status section update, once we have that not too difficult or slow to publish WD
... would like to send CfC
... good practice, not much delay with 1 week CfC, so lets do a CfC
... tue and thur are publication date
... need draft to see before deciding on specifics
... also need to understand what open issues remain, however that should not block publishing WD as we can publish early and often not block WD

Battery Status API

fjh: where are we

anssi: identified root cause for test failures, fixed the test cases
... root cause was that test case should not be run too early, ordering of test cases
... update sent yesterday

<anssik> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Feb/0061.html

anssi: one test remaining, Zhiqiang will work on this starting next week
... once that is done we can move to PR

fjh: how did you see the issue

anssik: Zhiqiang had tool to watch variables

fjh: is that tool available to others

anssik: Zhiqiang will include in test suite

fjh: so the timing should work with Dom being back

Vibration

fjh: lots of privacy discussion, see PING call for next week
... I have a conflict but if you can attend it might be useful

<anssik> https://github.com/w3c/vibration/pull/1

fjh: expect we can go to REC again without too much trouble, since we are not changing normative requirements that impact implementations

anssik: page visibility does not impact implementations or testing, better language
... note migrated from CVS to git , easier to review
... this is what to review: https://github.com/w3c/vibration/pull/1/files

fjh: I did not see the github discussion regarding privacy, wasn’t aware

anssik: request to mirror to list but approval is awaiting for Dom until he is back

fjh: thanks for this work
... will review, shall we send message to list asking for review
... I’ll ask for review by the WG
... need to check what PING is looking at, should be this one

<anssik> https://rawgit.com/anssiko/vibration/rec-errata/index.html

fjh: excellent, will make sure PING sees this as well as WG

<scribe> ACTION: fjh to request review of Anssi update of Vibration from WG and PING (pull request version) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/02/18-dap-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-745 - Request review of anssi update of vibration from wg and ping (pull request version) [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2016-02-25].

WakeLock API

Remaining issues; https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jan/0077.html

Andrey_Logvinov: remaining issues are feature requests as opposed to issues
... desires for control of timeouts etc

<scribe> … ongoing discussion, no consensus on how to deal with them

fjh: we have fast WD publication for this one, so the question is when to go to CR

anssik: behind flag in chromium?

Andrey_Logvinov: yes

anssik: other implementations?

Andrey_Logvinov: not yet

anssik: can we go to CR

fjh: can, since call for implementation, but better to have more implementation experience first, or confidence
... what about Mozilla, Marcos is involved

Andrey_Logvinov: not sure what they are doing

anssik: key use case was Firefox OS, but now be refocused, so no longer under development, so could be lower priority
... use case is for mobile

fjh: need two implementations at least to progress

anssik: what about iOS, apple
... mobile feature, so that leaves Android and iOS
... maybe Firefox for Android, another question for Marcos

Andrey_Logvinov: not just mobile, can be for any platform

anssik: high value is for mobile, delay differences

fjh: who to ask?
... people in second screen group?

anssik: probably not right people

fjh: who in apple would be right person to ask, having reason to be interested

anssik: they tend to follow, not doing early implementations
... start with Marcos and Mozilla

Charter

<anssik> proposed charter in review: https://www.w3.org/2015/11/DeviceSensorsCharter.html

anssik: we’ve been extended to end of march

fjh: I think we will be ok, haven’t seen issue, can work with Dom when he is back

Other Business

none

Adjourn

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: fjh to request review of Anssi update of Vibration from WG and PING (pull request version) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/02/18-dap-minutes.html#action01]
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Minutes from 4 Feb 2016 are approved, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Feb/att-0035/minutes-2016-02-04.html
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