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# Device APIs Working Group Teleconference

## 15 Aug 2012

[Agenda][3]

See also: [IRC log][4]

## Attendees

Present

    Cathy, Frederick_Hirsch, Giri_Mandyam, Josh_Soref, Jungkee_Song

Regrets

    Robin_Berjon, Dave_Raggett, Claes_Nilsson, James_Hawkins

Chair

    Frederick_Hirsch

Scribe

    Josh_Soref

## Contents

  * [Topics][5]

    1. [Administrative][6]

    2. [Minutes approval][7]

    3. [HTML Media Capture Last Call][8]

    4. [Networked Service Discovery and Messaging FPWD comments][9]

    5. [WebIntents DAP Action Review][10]

    6. [Additional Action review][11]

    7. [Other Business][12]

  * [Summary of Action Items][13]

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<trackbot> Date: 15 August 2012

<scribe> Scribe: Josh_Soref

<gmandyam> Hello from Giri Mandyam, Qualcomm Innovation Center

### Administrative

<fjh> "Ambient light events" FPWD published, [http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-
ambient-light-20120802/][14]

<fjh> Discussion of moving tests to Github, comments to public-test-
infra@w3.org, [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2012Aug/0021.html][15]

<fjh> concrete suggestion to use wg name and shortname, see
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Aug/0036.html][16]

fjh: I just saw that github doesn't support subdirectories - so w3c-dap-
thingname is the style we'll probably have

### Minutes approval

<fjh> Approve minutes from 25 July 2012

<fjh> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2012Aug/att-0019/minutes-2012-07-25.html][17]

proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 25 July 2012 are approved.

**RESOLUTION: Minutes from 25 July 2012 are approved.**

<fjh> Approve minutes from 1 August 2012

<fjh> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2012Aug/att-0018/minutes-2012-08-01.html][18]

**RESOLUTION: Minutes from 1 August 2012 are approved.**

### HTML Media Capture Last Call

[ this section was updated after the meeting to reflect the actual number of
comments: 9 ]

<fjh> [HTML Media Capture Last Call Comments][19]

<fjh> Last Call Comments from "Protocols and Formats" WG,
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Aug/0026.html][20]

<fjh> [http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-html-media-capture-20120712/][21]

<fjh> Last Call review period ended 9 August 2012

fjh: PF WG had a comment

... about what if the device isn't present

... we need to explicitly say fallback to file

... we also don't say about security for turn on the mic

... i think it's implicit, and easily addressed

<Zakim> Josh_Soref, you wanted to debate

Josh_Soref: it shouldn't just fallback to <file>

... it should allow the UA to decide to let the user select another thing

... such as providing a microphone input or a file

fjh: i agree,

... but we need to put something in the doc

Josh_Soref: yes, we need something for the doc

<fjh> **ACTION:** josh to propose text for HTML Media Capture to allow for
alternative capture device if specified device not available [recorded in
[http://www.w3.org/2012/08/15-dap-minutes.html#action01][22]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-565 - Propose text for HTML Media Capture to allow
for alternative capture device if specified device not available [on Josh
Soref - due 2012-08-22].

<fjh> **ACTION:** fjh to propose security text for HTML Media Capture to
address LC comment [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2012/08/15-dap-
minutes.html#action02][23]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-566 - Propose security text for HTML Media Capture
to address LC comment [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-08-22].

<fjh> Robin has action to enter LC comments into LC tracker

<fjh> but I can do it if useful

### Networked Service Discovery and Messaging FPWD comments

<fjh> "Networked Service Discovery and Messaging" FPWD published,
[http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-discovery-api-20120807/][24]

<fjh> General comments, [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2012Aug/0016.html][25] (Cathy)

<fjh> UPnP-specific comments: [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
device-apis/2012Aug/0017.html][26] (Cathy)

<fjh> Additional general comments: [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public
/public-device-apis/2012Aug/0025.html][27] (Eyal)

<fjh> Security & privacy considerations [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public
/public-device-apis/2012Aug/0015.html][28] (Frederick, Robin)

fjh: Cathy, thanks for your very detailed comments

... i think they're very useful

Cathy: i got a message from richt that they're working on the feedback

... i expect them to have a new version, this week or next week

fjh: it would help if richt indicated which comments he's addressed

... so we know what's open/what's done

### WebIntents DAP Action Review

<fjh> ACTION-514?

<trackbot> ACTION-514 -- Robin Berjon to talk to the Web Schema group about
using schema.org nouns for Intents -- due 2012-07-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/514][29]

<fjh> I think robin did this, but need to confirm

<fjh> ACTION-516?

<trackbot> ACTION-516 -- Josh Soref to propose Security Considerations section
on SSL for Intents sepc -- due 2012-07-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/516][30]

Josh_Soref: i do, maybe i can do that today...

<fjh> ACTION-550?

<trackbot> ACTION-550 -- James Hawkins to add event for on load to webintents
spec -- due 2012-07-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/550][31]

<fjh> not clear of status

<fjh> ACTION-551?

<trackbot> ACTION-551 -- James Hawkins to share proposal on list to handle
dynamic insertion/removal etc of <intent> tags -- due 2012-07-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/551][32]

<fjh> ACTION-552?

<trackbot> ACTION-552 -- Robin Berjon to send some spec text for the way that
extras work -- due 2012-07-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/552][33]

fjh: there's been a discussion about work between DAP/Intents/HTML

<fjh> ACTION-555?

<trackbot> ACTION-555 -- Claes Nilsson to add mDNS adaption to the 'Web
Intents Addendum - Local Services' specification for feature completion and
before FPWD -- due 2012-08-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/555][34]

fjh: dom, i think you're back from vacation

<fjh> new version available with these changes, update in progress

<fjh> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2012Aug/0035.html][35]

<fjh> ACTION-556?

<trackbot> ACTION-556 -- Robin Berjon to set up test repository with example,
docs, manifest generation for Web Intents -- due 2012-07-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/556][36]

### Additional Action review

<fjh> ACTION-474?

<trackbot> ACTION-474 -- Adrian Bateman to make a proposal for Network
Information API -- due 2012-10-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/474][37]

<fjh> ACTION-558?

<trackbot> ACTION-558 -- Robin Berjon to draft a proposal for stills capture
for gUM -- due 2012-07-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/558][38]

<fjh> is this in a task force discussion?

<fjh> ACTION-561?

<trackbot> ACTION-561 -- Richard Tibbett to produce a proposal draft for a
StreamRecorder API -- due 2012-07-27 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/561][39]

<fjh> cannot discuss as those with actions not here

### Other Business

<fjh> Apps World Europe, [http://www.apps-world.net/europe/index.php][40]

<fjh> 2-3 October, London

<fjh> josh_soref: announces this conference, does anyone have any more details
about it?

Josh_Soref: that's listed on
[http://www.w3.org/participate/eventscal.html][41] as a W3C endorsed
conference

fjh: plh is in a panel

... as usual, we will cancel calls if there's nothing to do

... thanks all

... see people next week, unless we don't

... please remember to register for tpac

<fjh> Here is the link for TPAC
[http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/Overview.html][42]

<fjh> DAP F2F is 1-2 November during TPAC, please remember to register,
payment deadline, hotel and travel

fjh: please remember to register, and pay the fee to w3

... and before the deadline or prices go up

... and don't forget to book a hotel, and travel

... Wednesday is unconference

Josh_Soref: it was listed as unconference

... and they were soliciting potential topics

fjh: thanks Josh_Soref for scribing

[ Adjourned ]

trackbot, end meeting

## Summary of Action Items

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** fjh to propose security text for HTML Media Capture to
address LC comment [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2012/08/15-dap-
minutes.html#action02][23]]

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** josh to propose text for HTML Media Capture to allow for
alternative capture device if specified device not available [recorded in
[http://www.w3.org/2012/08/15-dap-minutes.html#action01][22]]


[End of minutes]

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