# Device APIs Working Group Teleconference ## 26 Oct 2011 [Agenda][3] See also: [IRC log][4] ## Attendees Present Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch, Sakari_Poussa, Jose_Cantera, Clarke_Stevens, SungOk_You, Rich_Tibbett, Cathy_Chan, Dominique_Hazael- Massieux, Claes_Nilsson, Anders, Isberg, Anssi_Kostiainen Regrets Josh_Soref Chair Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch Scribe richt ## Contents * [Topics][5] 1. [Administrative][6] 2. [TPAC F2F][7] 3. [Discovery][8] 4. [Vibration API][9] 5. [Sensors][10] 6. [Feature Permissions][11] 7. [Contacts][12] 8. [Battery][13] 9. [AOB][14] * [Summary of Action Items][15] * * * Date: 26 October 2011 Could I get a minute on the agenda to discuss distribution of the CableLabs discovery implementation? ScribeNick: richt ### Administrative fjh: Timezone change on the first Monday of TPAC ... May affect people dialling in. ... TPAC agenda is finalized. TPAC final agenda , see [http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/][16] Plenary day info [http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2011][17] fjh: Any other announcements? [no other announcements] ### TPAC F2F Draft agenda - [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_3-4_November_ 2011][18],_Santa_Clara_(TPAC) proposal is to have breaks 10-10:30, lunch 12-1, break 3:30-4 afternoon break, 3:3:30 might be better on day 1, i'm going to be a bit late on thursday morning. i have an appointment with santa clara municipality @9am. i should be on site by 9:45 and hopefully on the call by 9:25 fjh: Anything on the agenda that needs adjusting? darobin: Anything on privacy as a topic? ... Privacy IG going to be around? fjh: I have an issue to bring up, TAG may have some new update on its privacy work, will look into any additional items. ... Anything else for the F2F? web & tv, API approaches and rationale - [http://www.w3.org/wiki/API_Design_Approaches_and_the_Rationales_for_Them][19] ### Discovery fjh: List discussion. Clarke you want to introduce an implementation? Clarke: Just wondering how to share an implementation? fjh: Uploading something is a good approach. darobin: A link to where the implementation can be retrieved? you could also send "it" to www-archive@w3.org that will archive it in [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- archive/][20] Clarke: we've implemented a Java Applet to enable discovery + 3 demos to play with. ... It's for demo purposes. Not a production piece of software. ... [discusses individual demos] Clarke, could you provide more details in the demo link you will provide? Clarke: One more thing... :) Clarke: We've tested this on most browsers and it *usually* works. darobin: doesn't need to be production-level but really great to have a demo to play with. Clarke: Will be demoing this during the TPAC Plenary talk. during web and tv session ### Vibration API fjh: Anyone on the call that can speak to that? AnssiK: We have Mozilla's implementation. Asked Mozilla if they want to contribute their proposal to this WG. Awaiting a reply. ... Wonder if it would be helpful to create a spec based on what Mozilla currently have. ... So is that useful? I think it would be useful darobin: I think so. **ACTION:** anssik to produce initial vibration api spec [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2011/10/26-dap-minutes.html#action01][21]] Sorry, couldn't find user - anssik AnssiK: OK, I'll make this in to a spec and then we can discuss it further. **ACTION:** anssi to produce initial vibration api spec [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2011/10/26-dap-minutes.html#action02][22]] Created ACTION-458 - Produce initial vibration api spec [on Anssi Kostiainen - due 2011-11-02]. ACTION-458: Start with Mozilla API proposal ACTION-458 Produce initial vibration api spec notes added dom: We should mention this plan to Mozilla and we will discuss on the main Working Group mailing list for now. fjh: Or send a note to the TF mailing saying it's being discussed on the WG ML. jcantera: I can provide some input on Vibration from working in this field. ... with Immersion jcantera: ...at the TPAC F2F. ... Most of the time you can't control the intensity of the vibration. [http://immersion.com/][23] jcantera: Hopefully such implementors feedback will be helpful. darobin: would be very useful. I think we should wait for a first draft and then discuss specific restrictions/issues. Or jcantera and AnssiK work together on producing the first draft? fjh: AnssiK to produce first draft and then we can discuss further at TPAC and beyond. ### Sensors fjh: Discussion ongoing on the list. jcantera: Issues open on the discovery of sensors, connecting to multiple sensors. ... to be discussed at the F2F meeting. ... Will present a prototype implementation of the Sensors API. Implemented in Android using the low-level sensor APIs. ... Will be demonstrating in an app via a WebView. darobin: will the prototype be available for others to play with? jcantera: code is being uploaded for the public to use. ... ...in github. link will be provided when that's ready. ### Feature Permissions fjh: we'll defer this since relevant people are not on the call. ### Contacts fjh: What's the next step? [https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/ContactsAPI][24] mozilla recently reviewed the contacts spec and decided it didn't like a bunch of things in it i tried to get them to send feedback to the list richt notes we could go to last call but waiting for feedback from mozilla and still working on test cases but they aren't [contacts API test suite][25] Josh_Soref has started to re-work on it, hasn't he? they want better alignment with vcard4 fjh: should we discuss this at the F2F? yeah, i'm starting to rework it darobin: hopefully we can discuss directly with a Mozilla rep. [will discuss further at the F2F] ### Battery fwiw, i agree with and was working to make changes which happen to correspond with their vision AnssiK: Optimistic on progress of this spec. +1 to publishing battery whenever the editor's happy AnssiK: Have been patching in feedback from Mozilla. This work is progressing well, thanks Anssi. Suggest we publish after TPAC. AnssiK: Might be good to publish after TPAC. it's actually too late for publishing before TPAC fjh: Let's do a CfC during the TPAC F2F. moratorium ends on 7/11 ### AOB fjh: Any other topics? Are we done? ... We're done. See you all next week. [meeting ended] ## Summary of Action Items **[NEW]** **ACTION:** anssi to produce initial vibration api spec [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2011/10/26-dap-minutes.html#action02][22]] **[NEW]** **ACTION:** anssik to produce initial vibration api spec [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2011/10/26-dap-minutes.html#action01][21]] [End of minutes] * * * Minutes formatted by David Booth's [scribe.perl][26] version 1.135 ([CVS log][27]) $Date: 2009-03-02 03:52:20 $ [1]: http://www.w3.org/Icons/w3c_home [2]: http://www.w3.org/ [3]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2011Oct/0075.html [4]: http://www.w3.org/2011/10/26-dap-irc [5]: #agenda [6]: #item01 [7]: #item02 [8]: #item03 [9]: #item04 [10]: #item05 [11]: #item06 [12]: #item07 [13]: #item08 [14]: #item09 [15]: #ActionSummary [16]: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/ [17]: http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2011 [18]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_3-4_November_2011 [19]: http://www.w3.org/wiki/API_Design_Approaches_and_the_Rationales_for_Them [20]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/ [21]: http://www.w3.org/2011/10/26-dap-minutes.html#action01 [22]: http://www.w3.org/2011/10/26-dap-minutes.html#action02 [23]: http://immersion.com/ [24]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/ContactsAPI [25]: http://w3c-test.org/dap/contacts/tests/ [26]: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [27]: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/