# Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference

## 05 Jan 2011

[Agenda][3]

See also: [IRC log][4]

## Attendees

Present

    Anssi_Kostiainen, Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Dong-Young_Lee, Dzung_Tran,
Frederick_Hirsch, Ingmar_Kliche, Kyung-Tak_Lee, Laszlo_Gombos, Rich_Tibbett,
cecile_Marc

Regrets

    Thomas_Roessler, John_Morris, Suresh_Chitturi, Niklas_Widell, Robin_Berjon

Chair

    Frederick_Hirsch

Scribe

    cmarc

## Contents

  * [Topics][5]

    1. [Administrative][6]

    2. [Minutes Approval][7]

    3. [Action Review][8]

    4. [Issue review][9]

    5. [Contacts][10]

    6. [timezone][11]

    7. [Sysinfo][12]

    8. [Messaging][13]

    9. [Other Business][14]

    10. [Adjourn][15]

  * [Summary of Action Items][16]

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<trackbot> Date: 05 January 2011

### Administrative

<fjh> ScribeNick: cmarc

<fjh> Happy New Year!

<fjh> Publishing moratorium in May - 6 May publication request deadline

<fjh> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-
apis/2011Jan/0000.html][17]

<fjh> WHATWG <device> specification at [http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps
/current-work/multipage/commands.html#devices][18]

<fjh> Additional Seoul F2F workshop and logistics information

<fjh> ACTION-305?

<trackbot> ACTION-305 -- Kangchan Lee to provide details of workshop at Seoul
F2F (March 2011) -- due 2010-11-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/305][19]

<fjh> I understood that it was two days F2F, Tuesday/Thursday with workshop on
Wed, so we obviously need to clarify

<fjh> June/July F2F planning

<fjh> ACTION-304?

<trackbot> ACTION-304 -- Richard Tibbett to investigate hosting a meeting in
June/July in Opera's European offices -- due 2010-11-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/304][20]

<dom> ACTION-304 due next week

<trackbot> ACTION-304 Investigate hosting a meeting in June/July in Opera's
European offices due date now next week

### Minutes Approval

<fjh> Approve 15 December minutes

<fjh> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2010Dec/att-0039/minutes-2010-12-15.html][21]

<fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 15 December 2010 approved

**RESOLUTION: Minutes from 15 December 2010 approved**

### Action Review

<fjh> reviewed actions at [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2011Jan/0001.html][22]

<fjh> ACTION-132?

<trackbot> ACTION-132 -- Max Froumentin to look at messaging subscribe with
filtering and events -- due 2010-03-25 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/132][23]

<fjh> editing action on Maria for this one

<dom> close ACTION-132

<trackbot> ACTION-132 look at messaging subscribe with filtering and events
closed

<fjh> ACTION-148?

<trackbot> ACTION-148 -- Bryan Sullivan to compare user interaction input with
what already available in HTML5 / WebApps -- due 2010-03-25 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/148][24]

<fjh> ACTION-173?

<trackbot> ACTION-173 -- Dzung Tran to implement privacy changes noted by
alissa, see [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2010May/0072.html][25] -- due 2010-05-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/173][26]

<fjh> ACTION-214?

<trackbot> ACTION-214 -- Thomas Roessler to request IETF community review of
sysinfo API Last Call WD through W3C/IETF liaison channel -- due 2010-01-31 --
OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/214][27]

<fjh> ACTION-231?

<trackbot> ACTION-231 -- Claes Nilsson to look into what he can share re
javascript-based android prototype of PowerBox -- due 2010-07-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/231][28]

<fjh> ACTION-232?

<trackbot> ACTION-232 -- Robin Berjon to coordinate with Tyler on exposing
Contacts through Powerbox -- due 2010-08-05 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/232][29]

<fjh> [http://web-send.org/introducer/][30]

### Issue review

<fjh> issues reviewed to either close or take next steps -
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jan/0000.html][31]

<fjh> suggest changing, "API Requirements" document be renamed "API
Requirements and Design Decisions"

<dom> +1

<fjh> ISSUE-2?

<trackbot> ISSUE-2 -- Error handling style -- pending review

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/2][32]

<dom> (the APICheckList has also served somewhat as a way to record some of
our design decisions [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/ApiCheckList][33] )

<fjh> example of design decision to be recorded

**RESOLUTION: record design decisions and rationale in API Requirements and
Design Decisions**

<fjh> propose to record security threats, countermeasures, and identity
management considerations

<fjh> ISSUE-19?

<trackbot> ISSUE-19 -- What are key HTML 5 security model considerations that
impact DAP Policy language and framework -- pending review

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/19][34]

<fjh> ISSUE-20?

<trackbot> ISSUE-20 -- What are essential requirements for DAP security and
policy -- pending review

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/20][35]

<fjh> dom notes security requirements should take care of this

<fjh> **ACTION:** fjh to review security requirements document [recorded in
[http://www.w3.org/2011/01/05-dap-minutes.html#action01][36]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-321 - Review security requirements document [on
Frederick Hirsch - due 2011-01-12].

<fjh> ISSUE-42?

<trackbot> ISSUE-42 -- Able to use of MMI for user interactions -- pending
review

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/42][37]

<fjh> ISSUE-42: open ended issue not specific enough to act upon

<trackbot> ISSUE-42 Able to use of MMI for user interactions notes added

<dom> ISSUE-21: we resolved to simplify the model with "permissions" instead
of a duality features/capabilities

<trackbot> ISSUE-21 Is policy/access control on both features and device
capabilities needed, do all submissions include both of these notes added

### Contacts

<dom> ACTION-316?

<trackbot> ACTION-316 -- Richard Tibbett to describe contacts write in
Appendix of Contacts API -- due 2010-12-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/316][38]

fjh: discuss contacts writer after action completed to enable clear
discussion, also with Suresh on call

<fjh> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2010Dec/0045.html][39]

### timezone

<fjh> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2010Dec/0045.html][39]

<fjh> suggestion for chairs to contact ECMA TC-39 group to work on changes to
the Date object or introduce a Calendar object

<Zakim> dom, you wanted to mention TC39 rhythm

<fjh> summary - we should keep TC39 informed of our approach, but not delay
our work

<fjh> **ACTION:** fjh to follow up on ECMA TC-39 coordination [recorded in
[http://www.w3.org/2011/01/05-dap-minutes.html#action02][40]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-322 - Follow up on ECMA TC-39 coordination [on
Frederick Hirsch - due 2011-01-12].

### Sysinfo

<fjh> Representing power properly

<cmarc_> how to deal the power, have a representation where the battery has a
negative value, etc...

<fjh> we should integrate some of this discussion into the specification

<fjh> **ACTION:** bryan to update sysinfo related to power discussion
[recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2011/01/05-dap-minutes.html#action03][41]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-323 - Update sysinfo related to power discussion [on
Bryan Sullivan - due 2011-01-12].

### Messaging

<fjh> Maria updated doc, see [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
device-apis/2011Jan/0011.html][42]

<fjh> please review updates

<fjh> also additional update may be needed based on
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jan/0004.html][43]

### Other Business

<fjh> None

<fjh> Please review the latest drafts and look at the actions. To see your
actions, use [http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my][44]

<fjh> Hope Robin feels better, and Happy New Year again.

### Adjourn

## Summary of Action Items

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** bryan to update sysinfo related to power discussion
[recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2011/01/05-dap-minutes.html#action03][41]]

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** fjh to follow up on ECMA TC-39 coordination [recorded in
[http://www.w3.org/2011/01/05-dap-minutes.html#action02][40]]

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** fjh to review security requirements document [recorded
in [http://www.w3.org/2011/01/05-dap-minutes.html#action01][36]]


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