W3C

Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference

18 Aug 2010

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch, Wojciech_Maslowski, Suresh_Chitturi, Dzung_Tran, bryan_sullivan, Anssi_Kostiainen, Ilkka_Oksanen, Claes_Nilsson, Mohammed_dadas, Richard_Tibbett, Dong-Young_Lee, Fan_HU, Niklas_Widell
Regrets
Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Marco_Marengo, John_Morris, WonSuk_Lee, Ingmar_Kliche, Erica_Newland
Chair
Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
Scribe
wmaslowski_

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 18 August 2010

<fjh> ScribeNick: wmaslowski_

Administrative

<fjh> TPAC F2F

<fjh> WG questionnaire (for all), http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/tpac2010dap/

<fjh> TPAC registration (for in-person attendees) http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2010reg/

<fjh> March F2F questionnaire (Seoul, Korea)

<fjh> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/seoul-f2f-dates/

<fjh> Contacts API WD published 17 August

<fjh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-contacts-api-20100817/

<fjh> W3C Workshop on Privacy and data usage control 04/05 October 2010, Boston

<fjh> http://www.w3.org/2010/policy-ws/

Minutes Approval

<fjh> Approve 11 August minutes

<fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/att-0041/minutes-2010-08-11.html

RESOLUTION: Minutes 11 Aug approved

<Fan_HU> I have been trying to dial in, but both UK and French number are busy, anyone experience the same problem?

Proposed Policy Requirements revision

<fjh> proposal - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/0051.html

fjh: Can we update the requirements with the new proposal

<fjh> update - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/0057.html

<Suresh> +

suresh: Wonders about if widgets/applications always run in 'trusted' mode

<fjh> untrusted widget - either not signed, or signed without trusted root

RESOLUTION: Accept proposed update to policy requirements

<fjh> ACTION: fjh to update policy requirement with proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-254 - Update policy requirement with proposal [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-08-25].

<Suresh> perhaps we could name the category as "Untrusted web applications" or similar to be more generic

<scribe> ACTION: fjh Update the requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-255 - Update the requirements [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-08-25].

Features

<fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/0054.html

<fjh> bryan notes that should use strings in BONDI case as well, since URI can change with versioning even if capability constant

fjh:

<Suresh> we have keep in mind that Widgets P&C spec uses "feature IRI"

bryan_sullivan: At this stage it is better to concentrate on capabilities

<fjh> suggest we focus on permissions / capabilities in this case, not sure distinction of these levels and complexity are helpful now

<fjh> ACTION: fjh to update features to use strings for BONDI, add text regarding features/capabilities [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-256 - Update features to use strings for BONDI, add text regarding features/capabilities [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-08-25].

Privacy

<fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/0059.html

fjh: proposal to represent ruleset in another format, seems feasible

<fjh> I suggest we can defer this until we have agreement on rulesets

Calendaring coordination

<darobin> new contacts API

Contacts new draft published. Additional updates?

wmaslowski: there are some issues to be solved. But i can go further with formal draft.

<scribe> ACTION: wmaslowski_ to make a formal proposal for integration of forms and contacts. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - wmaslowski (Action created manually, see ACTION-258)_

<fjhlurker> ACTION-258?

<trackbot> ACTION-258 -- Wojciech Maslowski to make a formal proposal for integration of forms and contacts -- due 2010-08-25 -- OPEN

Capture

<fjh> illka notes draft is almost ready for FPWD

Mohammed: New changes in capture

<Zakim> AnssiK, you wanted to comment on SysInfo and serializing async API calls get() and monitor()

SysInfo status (deferred unless new topics)

<AnssiK> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/#methods

AnssiK: What happens if you call get/monitor when previous call havent finished

<bryan_sullivan> q

AnssiK: Do we do the same as in Contact ie. call error callback in that case

<darobin> "If a current find(), save() or remove() operation is pending a response, and the method was invoked with a non-null errorCB argument, invoke the errorCB with a PENDING_OPERATION_ERROR code. "

<AnssiK> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/system-info/#widl-SystemInfo-get

<AnssiK> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/system-info/#widl-SystemInfo-monitor

<AnssiK> "If a current find(), save() or remove() operation is pending a response, and the method was invoked with a non-null errorCB argument, invoke the errorCB with a PENDING_OPERATION_ERROR code. "

<AnssiK> above is from Contacts API

bryan_sullivan: I think we should follow the same pattern

<darobin> ACTION: Richard to define what goes on for concurrent calls to find() when there is no error callback (and step three also needs to define that); then report to group so we can do the same to SysInfo get [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-257 - Define what goes on for concurrent calls to find() when there is no error callback (and step three also needs to define that); then report to group so we can do the same to SysInfo get [on Richard Tibbett - due 2010-08-25].

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/258

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: fjh to update features to use strings for BONDI, add text regarding features/capabilities [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh to update policy requirement with proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh Update the requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Richard to define what goes on for concurrent calls to find() when there is no error callback (and step three also needs to define that); then report to group so we can do the same to SysInfo get [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: wmaslowski_ to make a formal proposal for integration of forms and contacts. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action04]
 
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