Message-Id: <v04011701b2899c5e006f@[24.0.249.126]> In-Reply-To: <4FD6422BE942D111908D00805F3158DF0A75786E@RED-MSG-52> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:27:12 -0400 To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org From: "David G. Durand" <dgd@cs.bu.edu> Subject: RE: defining a versioned resource to be a "collection" At 6:24 PM -0400 11/5/98, Chris Kaler wrote: >We would also have to add the notion of a "default" member to a collection. >That is, if I do a GET on the versioned resource, which is just a >collection, which resource within the collection do I return (this is the >PIN method, but the semantics are a little broader now -- not that this is >bad). As I understand collections, the result of doing a GET is server defined (as we have properties for accessing metadata and contents information for collections). Defining that a particular kind of collection responds to GET in a particular way is exactly the kind of thing this leeway was intended to support. I don't see it as a bizarre new thing, but a sensible leverage of a method we created for just this kind of case! >When building Web sites, the inter-page links are very important. I believe >people want to be able to version their sites without requiring a lot of >link updating to occur. I agree with this very strongly, but I don't think your mechanism is the only (or even the best) way to ensure this. Any method of mapping a specific version of a resource to a specific part of a URL tree will accomplish this. Configurations do this (and there may be different levels of complexity). The use of default versions is _surely_ separate from the use of a special header, since the default version is produced when the header is omitted (or perhaps has a special value). The real problem with the header technique is that it duplicates a mechanism that we'll need anyway (the ability to create a URL that represents a particular revision of a versioned resource). We must have such URLs to support version-specific links (e.g. for copy-editing applications). So why create a duplicate mechanism involving new HTTP headers that duplicates that functionality. You articulate a the case for configurations or some other way of getting a "friendly" default-version URL space. That's separate from the Header/URL issue. >That is, I should be able to create different >branches and have my links still work by passing in headers to qualify the >URI. By introducing namespace changes to refer to the branches and versions >(or even configurations), you force the links to have to change. The headers are a red herring, I think. To restate the requirement: "We must be able to have a URL space where HTML links (relative URLs at least, and perhaps absolute ones) will not be broken because the HTML files are stored in versioned resources." -- David _________________________________________ David Durand dgd@cs.bu.edu \ david@dynamicDiagrams.com Boston University Computer Science \ Sr. Analyst http://www.cs.bu.edu/students/grads/dgd/ \ Dynamic Diagrams --------------------------------------------\ http://www.dynamicDiagrams.com/ MAPA: mapping for the WWW \__________________________