- From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:24:10 -0600
- To: jbigham@cs.rochester.edu
- Cc: cooper@w3.org, janina@rednote.net, jeffrey.bigham@gmail.com, ladner@cs.washington.edu, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, wai-xtech@w3.org, jcraig@apple.com
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Hi Jeff, Regarding IE6. Despite the industry use I would just stop supporting it. I was told Freedom Scientific no longer will support IE 6 as of JAWS 12. Polling is a dead end - I agree. We had not addressed the web recorder use case. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group From: "Jeffrey P. Bigham" <jbigham@cs.rochester.edu> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Cc: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, cooper@w3.org, janina@rednote.net, ladner@cs.washington.edu, wai-xtech@w3.org Date: 11/08/2010 04:03 PM Subject: Re: ARIA and WebAnywhere [FWD] Sent by: jeffrey.bigham@gmail.com Hi Rich, DOM Mutation Events would be particularly useful. We had brainstormed ideas for ways in which we might implement ARIA in WebAnywhere on browsers that do not support the mutation events (for instance, on the stubbornly persistent IE 6 base), and may have some inefficient work-arounds. For instance, we have done limited experiments on polling content to detect when it has changed. These work-arounds are incredibly inefficient. Beyond cloud-based AT like WebAnywhere, mutation events are incredibly useful for the various available web recorders. We've also done some work with Stony Brook University on inferring semantics of dynamic page elements which relies on detecting page changes. Thanks, Jeff On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com> wrote: Thank you Gregory. Jeff, When you implement WAI-ARIA support are there any browser dependencies, such as DOM Mutation Events, that you would be reliant on to report things like ARIA state change information? There has been discussion about removing Mutation Events, for performance reasons, from browsers over time. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group Inactive hide details for "Gregory J. Rosmaita" ---11/08/2010 10:37:52 AM---aloha, rich! here is a response to my query about "Gregory J. Rosmaita" ---11/08/2010 10:37:52 AM---aloha, rich! here is a response to my query about webanywhere -- the reply hasn't hit the wai-xtech From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Cc: janina@rednote.net, cooper@w3.org Date: 11/08/2010 10:37 AM Subject: Re: ARIA and WebAnywhere [FWD] aloha, rich! here is a response to my query about webanywhere -- the reply hasn't hit the wai-xtech archives yet, so i thought i'd forward this to you, gregory. ---------- Forwarded Message ----------- From: "Jeffrey P. Bigham" <jbigham@cs.rochester.edu> To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net> Cc: cmprince@cs.washington.edu, ladner@cs.washington.edu, wai-xtech@w3.org Sent: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:42:14 -0500 Subject: Re: ARIA and WebAnywhere Hi Gregory, WebAnywhere does not currently support ARIA, but we do have plans to add this functionality. We have done initial feasibility studies that indicate that this is possible. What kind of information would be most useful for your group? Thanks, -Jeff On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net> wrote: > note: this post has been sent to wai-xtech@w3.org, a cross-working group > publicly archived w3c emailing list, so as to ensure that this query > and your reaches those in the W3C concerned with accessibility... > > aloha! > > during a recent ARIA Sub-Caucus call, the topic of cloud-based > assistive technologies arose, and WebAnywhere was cited by > many on the call as being a possibility -- i searched in the > documentation available via > > http://webinsight.cs.washington.edu/papers/ > > and elsewhere on the webanywhere pages, but couldn't find a > mention of ARIA (http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria) -- does > WebAnywhere support ARIA? do you have a plan to integrate > ARIA support into WebAnywhere? are there any implementation > details which you are able to share with the WAI? > > thank you for your assistance, gregory. > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ACCOUNTABILITY, n. The mother of caution. > -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net > Vice-Chair, Webmaster & Listmaster: Open Accessibility > http://a11y.org http://a11y.org/specs > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- Jeffrey P. Bigham, Ph.D. Department of Computer Science University of Rochester http://www.jeffreybigham.com Creator of WebAnywhere: http://webanywhere.cs.washington.edu ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- Jeffrey P. Bigham, Ph.D. Department of Computer Science University of Rochester http://www.jeffreybigham.com Creator of WebAnywhere: http://webanywhere.cs.washington.edu
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