Re: Focus onto control that only appears on focus?

Good point, I will need to check. The norm for skip links is not opacity
but left: -9999px relative positioning.

On Tuesday, February 13, 2024, Adam Cooper <cooperad@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Does tabbing/swiping elements with zero opacity work on all platforms? I
seem to recall a browser not focusing elements with zero opacity when
tabbing from the address bar … might be a flashback to IE.
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> From: Michael Livesey <mike.j.livesey@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 8:25 AM
> To: Jeremy Echols <jechols@uoregon.edu>
> Cc: WAI Interest Group discussion list <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Focus onto control that only appears on focus?
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> Thanks, Jeremy,
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> Yes, I totally forgot about skip links good point.
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> On Monday, February 12, 2024, Jeremy Echols <jechols@uoregon.edu> wrote:
>> I think this is pretty common for skip links and paragraph permalinks a
lot of sites use. I don’t know that it’s even bad UX, but for accessibility
it is definitely *good*, even when it can be a little unexpected.
Always-visible links that only help keyboard users would arguably be worse
UX.
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>> From: Michael Livesey <mike.j.livesey@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 01:39
>> To: WAI Interest Group discussion list <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>> Subject: Focus onto control that only appears on focus?
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>> Hi all,
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>> I have a question about focusing onto a control that is opacity: 0 when
not focused.
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>> So you hit "Tab" and you are taken to a control that has opacity: 1 set
on its :focus pseudo selector, thus it was invisible and it only appears on
focus.
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>> When focused, the control will have a focus ring.
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>> I know this isn't ideal UX, but is this disallowed under any criteria
please?
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>> Thank you