Re: [External Sender] <ol start="3"> Is this accessible?

I mean something like

<ol>
<li><p>Long surgery Description</p>
      <p>More surgery description</p></li>
</ol>

<div><ad></div>

<ol start=“2”>
<li><p>2nd Long surgery description
      <p>More 2nd long surgery description</p></li>
<li><p>3rd Long surgery description
      <p>More 34d long surgery description</p></li>
<li><p>4th Long surgery description
      <p>More 4th long surgery description</p></li>
</ol>






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> On Nov 19, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Brian Lovely <brian.lovely@capitalone.com> wrote:
> 
> Ugh, you mean like:
> 
> <ol>
>      <li>Something</li>
>      <div>An advertisement</div>
>      <li>Something else</li>
> </ol>
> 
> That's a violation of WCAG 2.1 SC 4.1.1 Parsing. The ol contains a non-supported child (the div). Before any accessibility is looked at, a page must be able to pass an HTML linter with no errors. This would throw a parent/child error.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 1:25 PM Marc Haunschild <haunschild@mhis.onmicrosoft.de <mailto:haunschild@mhis.onmicrosoft.de>> wrote:
> Then its a matter of presentation (CSS) not semantics (HTML).
> 
> Respect the separation of concerns principle and things will become much easier.
> 
> Flex box offers a easy way to make space between two elements when using margin: auto for example - in this gap you can place your add - although I still might not understand all aspects of your particular component, I think I would use something like this
> 
> <ul>
>   <li>{text}</li>
>   <li>{text}</li>
>   <li>{text}</li>
>   <li>{advertisement}</li>
> </ul>
> 
> With order you can rearrange the items and by putting the ad at the end you don’t interrupt the logical order
> 
> In a future redesign you won't need to touch the HTML - all changes can be made in the CSS (or SASS/LESS if you prefer to work with a preprocessor)
> 
> Marc
> 
>> On 19. Nov 2019, at 18:58, Jeana Clark <jclark@veritashealth.com <mailto:jclark@veritashealth.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Patrick - Thanks for your comment.
>> 
>> The problem is we want to put an ad in the middle of a list - but not make it a list item. So sometimes if it’s a numbered list, we will close the list, insert the ad, and restart the list (hence start=“3” on the ol) 
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>>> On Nov 19, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk <mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 19/11/2019 17:12, Jeana Clark wrote:
>>>> Sometimes the lists were used as a design solution… writers wanted to make the content more ’scannable’, and they really aren’t list items. They’re just bulleted, indented paragraphs — those I can deal with with redesign.
>>>> But sometimes they are ‘lists’ as like, here are 5 treatments for your lower back pain.. but each ‘list item’ is a thorough multi-paragraphed description of the treatment, within a list item.
>>> 
>>> Even in those cases, you should be able to just stick them all in an <li>...</li> without the need for breaking up a list and starting it at a particular number later, unless I'm missing something.
>>> 
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