- From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:16:10 +1000
- To: Will Sargent <will.sargent@gmail.com>
- Cc: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
> On 29 Apr 2015, at 9:17 am, Will Sargent <will.sargent@gmail.com> wrote: > > So to clarify on the P.S: > > must-revalidate specifies the behavior as "cannot reach" in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7234#section-5.2.2.1 but does not use the word "disconnect" > > "In all circumstances a cache MUST obey the must-revalidate directive; in particular, if a cache cannot reach the origin server for any reason, it MUST generate a 504 (Gateway Timeout) response." > > There's a reference to "disconnected" in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7234#section-4.2.4 with similar language that seems to indicate that 5.2.2.1 is also a "disconnect" > > A cache MUST NOT send stale responses unless it is disconnected (i.e., it cannot contact the origin server or otherwise find a forward path) or doing so is explicitly allowed (e.g., by the max-stale request directive; see Section 5.2.1). > > "Likewise, a cache SHOULD generate a 112 warn-code (see Section 5.5.3) in stale responses if the cache is disconnected." > > The confusion comes from https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7234#section-5.5.3 which says that > > "A cache SHOULD generate this if it is intentionally disconnected from the rest of the network for a period of time." > > It's that "intentionally" that is confusing -- that seems to indicate that the cache has an "offline" mode that can be used when it does not want to revalidate results. Also, what happens when a cache is unintentionally disconnected from the rest of the netework? > > So, are these all talking about the same thing? Roughly. Many cache implementations go into a distinct state when the network isn't available, and the text you're reading is left over from the inclusion of the concept in previous versions of HTTP/1.1. We probably didn't do enough cleaning up around this text; Warnings didn't receive a lot of attention, because they're not widely implemented. I've created a bug to track this for future revisions: https://github.com/httpwg/http11bis/issues/5 Cheers, -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
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