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Re: [xmlschema-dev] <none>

From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 16:35:56 -0400
To: George Cristian Bina <george@oxygenxml.com>
Cc: Balakrishnan <balakrishnan@alden.co.in>, xmlschema-dev@w3.org
Message-ID: <OFC43DF3C9.C21326D3-ON8525716A.0070CE11-8525716A.00712792@lotus.com>

This question comes up from time to time, and it may be worth reminding 
readers of this list why XML Schema does not let you define entities.  In 
short, it's because we would have also had to change the XML 1.0 
recommendation, which basically says that entities are resolved from the 
definitions in DTDs.  Having new sources of entity definitions is not a 
"plug point" in XML 1.x as it stands.  So, we could have easily defined 
entities, but XML would not have done anything with them!  Significant 
time was spent during the development of Schema 1.0 trying to find a 
sensible way around this, and we gave up.  So, at least for the forseeable 
future, you need to use DTDs if you want to define entities.

By the way, we are also sometimes asked why you can't have the equivalent 
of a DTD internal subset, I.e. putting a schema fragment in the XML file 
but outside of the document element tree, and the answer is similar:  XML 
is not extensible in that way either.  The only "schema" language that can 
be embedded as an internal subset in an XML document is a DTD.

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George Cristian Bina <george@oxygenxml.com>
Sent by: xmlschema-dev-request@w3.org
05/10/2006 02:38 PM
 
        To:     Balakrishnan <balakrishnan@alden.co.in>
        cc:     xmlschema-dev@w3.org, (bcc: Noah Mendelsohn/Cambridge/IBM)
        Subject:        Re: [xmlschema-dev] <none>



Hi,

You need a DTD for entities. You can have something like below for 
instance:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<!DOCTYPE root [
  <!ENTITY copy "sample">
]>
<root>
     <test>this is the test &copy; node</test>
</root>

Best Regards,
George
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Balakrishnan wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I am new to Schema. I have more questions, first one here.
> 
> How to declare the entities in the schema? Could you advice please.
> 
> eg. XML
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
> <root>
>     <test>this is the test &copy; node</test>
> </root>
> 
> 
> eg. Schema
> <xsd:schema version='1.0'
>  xmlns:xsd='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema'>
>  <xsd:element name='root'> 
>   <xsd:complexType>
>    <xsd:sequence>
>     <xsd:element name='test'/> 
>    </xsd:sequence> 
>   </xsd:complexType>
>  </xsd:element>
> </xsd:schema>
> 
> Many thanks
> Bala
Received on Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:36:13 GMT

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