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RE: SOAP primer

From: Kevin Beason <beason@cs.fsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:04:23 +0000
To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
Cc: Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>, xmlp-comments@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.61.0509151840340.4913@diablo.cs.fsu.edu>





Thank you Noah and Martin for the responses. I was just exasperated, as 
the primer was linked from slashdot.org yesterday, and being unfamiliar 
with SOAP I was searching for the acronym definition as a basic 
introduction. In the Wikipedia article it's the very first thing mentioned 
in the overview. The primer has a section called "Overview" and yet this 
information is missing. That seemed wrong to me. Please pardon me if I am 
rude. I'm relatively uninformed and was just frustrated and complaining.

Have a good day,
Kevin

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:

] Adding a bit to Gudge's response:
] 
] The primer is, of course, not the normative specification.  In the actual 
] SOAP Framework Recommendation we do say [1]:
] 
] "In previous versions of this specification the SOAP name was an acronym. 
] This is no longer the case. "
] 
] Thus, in SOAP 1.2, we do make clear that the term SOAP is no longer an 
] acronym for anything. 
] 
] Why?   Well , in earlier versions it was Simple Object Access Protocol. As 
] we gradually realized that SOAP was not primarily for Object Access (it's 
] for messaging between services that may or may not be implemented as 
] objects), that acryonym definition came to seem outright misleading.  So, 
] our choice was:  make up a completely new name, or keep SOAP and drop the 
] acronym interpretation.  We went for the latter.  SOAP was already a very 
] well known term, and it's obviously quite catchy.
] 
] Noah
] 
] [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/#intro
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] "Martin Gudgin" <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
] Sent by: xmlp-comments-request@w3.org
] 09/15/2005 11:28 AM
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]         To:     "Kevin Beason" <beason@cs.fsu.edu>, <xmlp-comments@w3.org>
]         cc:     (bcc: Noah Mendelsohn/Cambridge/IBM)
]         Subject:        RE: SOAP primer
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] SOAPs acronym status was revoked sometime during the development of the
] 1.2 version of the protocol.
] 
] Gudge 
] 
] > -----Original Message-----
] > From: xmlp-comments-request@w3.org 
] > [mailto:xmlp-comments-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Beason
] > Sent: 14 September 2005 06:46
] > To: xmlp-comments@w3.org
] > Subject: SOAP primer
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] > It's amazing you don't even define what SOAP as an acronym 
] > means in the 
] > primer. That seems like particularly relevant information.
] > 
] > Just my two cents.
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