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RE: Features: required implementation and use (was Re: Describing which blobs are to be optimized.)

From: Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 06:31:19 -0700
Message-ID: <DD35CC66F54D8248B6E04232892B6338025C6AE0@RED-MSG-43.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: <paul.downey@bt.com>, <hugo@w3.org>, <gdaniels@sonicsoftware.com>
Cc: <Marc.Hadley@Sun.COM>, "Jonathan Marsh" <jmarsh@microsoft.com>, <www-ws-desc@w3.org>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>

Paul,

Sounds like we're both on the same page.

Cheers

Gudge 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul.downey@bt.com [mailto:paul.downey@bt.com] 
> Sent: 08 June 2004 14:13
> To: Martin Gudgin; hugo@w3.org; gdaniels@sonicsoftware.com
> Cc: Marc.Hadley@Sun.COM; Jonathan Marsh; www-ws-desc@w3.org; 
> xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Features: required implementation and use (was 
> Re: Describing which blobs are to be optimized.)
> 
> Gudge wrote:
> 
> >> 1) that setting the MTOM feature for a message indicates that a
> >>    sender may optionally send soap+xml or a mime package, but the 
> >>    receiver mustUnderstand MTOM messages regardless of the state 
> >>    within an MEP. If a receiver is unable to process MTOM messages 
> >>    then it should use another endpoint, binding or interface.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand the above. If the WSDL description of 
> > an endpoint says that the endpoint supports MTOM, then that 
> endpoint 
> > had better be able to consume and/or emit MTOM messages ( depending 
> > on whether you can state MTOM support at the binding, operation or
> > input/output level ).
> 
> There has been some discussion about 'servers' only sending MTOM if a 
> previous 'request' used MTOM and the like. 
> 
> I find it useful to focus on the sender and receiver of an individual 
> message regardless of what may happened previously within the MEP. 
> Like Hugo, i believe this kind of interaction belongs in the 
> domain of 
> 'constraints and capabilities'. 
> 
> So i think you've better phrased what i was trying to say, expect i 
> concentrated on receiving a message. Because the MTOM feature 
> is optional, 
> a one-way MEP could be still used by a non MTOM sender, but if an 
> endpoint (message, operation, binding, etc) is marked as 
> supporting MTOM, 
> then it must be able to process the MTOM messages it is 
> likely to receive. 
> 
> If an implementation can't handle MTOM messages then it could 
> fault or 
> use another compatible endpoint, binding, whatever, that 
> doesn't have the
> MTOM feature enabled.
> 
> Paul
> 
Received on Tuesday, 8 June 2004 09:31:33 GMT

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