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Re: The XML Query Data Model and PASWA

From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:08:14 -0400
To: Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>
Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF4FEDF78D.56D801A4-ON85256D88.0063A769@lotus.com>

Regarding minutes:  I'm not sure, but I think most of the interesting 
conclusions are in the note I sent accompanying my DM draft.  Just based 
on my recollection those conclusions are:


We need a draft to look at.  Noah and John Ibbotson were drafted to do the 
draft.  My email of an hour ago has my first cut, not yet seen by John
We agreed for the moment to handle only base64Binary
We agreed for the moment not to preserve type information in the receiving 
node (except as needed to effect the deserialization)
I think we agreed to schedule a call for review of whatever draft came 
out, but I don't think we locked in a date or plan for scheduling.  As 
noted previously, I'm out of the office until Tues the earliest, maybe 
Wed.

Hope this is what you need, and more to the point I hope you find the 
draft useful.  Cheers.

Noah

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Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>
08/20/2003 12:58 PM

 
        To:     noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
        cc:     xml-dist-app@w3.org
        Subject:        Re: The XML Query Data Model and PASWA


Ok. Thanks!
Did anyone take minutes for the 1st XQDMTF concall (13th aug)? 
Unfortunately, I could not attend the concall.

-Anish
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noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:
> I am within a day or so of fulfulling my action item to the DM task 
force, 
> which was to draft specific text for review.  Even though it is rough 
and 
> represents only my personal cut, I will cc: distApp.  Suggest you wait 
and 
> ask again if not clear then.
> 
> Simple answer:  PASWA requires that you know that some things are in the 

> form of base64Binary.  Schema processing is one way to check this, but 
> it's just an option and is not required.  You might know for other 
> reasons, including (quite likely) that you synthesized the data in that 
> form.  The DM formulation adopts the terminology of the Query data 
model, 
> but doesn't change any of the rules or reasoning embodied in PASWA.  The 

> hope is that by using that terminology we (a) avoid reinventing the 
wheel 
> on terminology for typed infosets and (b) increase the chance that if 
> someone ever does want to do a feature for transmitting or signing fully 

> typed data models, that we will have shown the way for optimzing such 
> transmissions. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
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> Noah Mendelsohn                              Voice: 1-617-693-4036
> IBM Corporation                                Fax: 1-617-693-8676
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> Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>
> 08/19/2003 09:31 PM
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>         To:     noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
>         cc:     xml-dist-app@w3.org
>         Subject:        Re: The XML Query Data Model and PASWA
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> Noah,
> 
> I don't fully understand the XQuery data model, but I am curious as to 
> whether your two formulations (variant #1 and #2 at [1]) affect the fact 

> that SOAP 1.2 does not require XML schema processing.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Anish
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> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2003Jun/0004.html
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