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Re: Clarification on use of encodingStyle attribute

From: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@systinet.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:13:49 +0100 (CET)
To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
cc: Henrik Frystyk Nielsen <henrikn@microsoft.com>, Martin Gudgin <marting@develop.com>, Jean-Jacques Moreau <moreau@crf.canon.fr>, Herve Ruellan <ruellan@crf.canon.fr>, <soap@zaks.demon.co.uk>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203252107410.32077-100000@mail.idoox.com>
 Noah, 
 I see where you're trying to get, I think.
 My interpretation is that the first four examples each contain 
two serialization roots in SOAP Encoding, while the last (fifth) 
has one serialization root.
 It doesn't really matter if we view your third and fourth 
example as two graphs or one containing disjoint areas (I'm not 
familiar with English terminology for graphs). 
 Interpreting all your examples as containing one graph (possibly 
in several disjoint pieces) would IMHO simplify our job of 
specifying how the corner cases are to be handled.
 Hope everyone agrees, 8-)

                   Jacek Kopecky

                   Senior Architect, Systinet (formerly Idoox)
                   http://www.systinet.com/



On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:

 > Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear.  The questions you raise are good ones, but 
 > neither is the one I intended.  My question boils down to, is the 
 > following reference legal given that it crosses two separate activations 
 > of our encoding style?
 > 
 > 
 > <!-- across headers -->
 > <SOAPENV:Header>
 >    <n:e1: SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding">
 >         <n:target id="targ">somestring</n:target>
 >   </n:e1>
 >   ...maybe some other headers here...
 >    <m:e2: SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding">
 >         <m:link ref="targ"/>
 >   </m:e2>
 > 
 > </SOAPENV:Header>
 > 
 > How about the following?
 > 
 > <!-- within a header -->
 > <SOAPENV:Header>
 >    <n:e1>
 >         <n:target id="targ" 
 >  SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding">
 >                      somestring
 >        </n:target>
 >        ...maybe some other elements here 
 >        <n:link ref="targ"
 >  SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding"/>
 >        ...maybe some other headers here...
 >     </n:e1>
 > </SOAPENV:Header>
 > 
 > Now we get to the real crux of the question:  If the above are legal, then 
 > presumably each results in a single graph.  Now, if we change the examples 
 > as follows, do we have two disjoint graphs?  There's nothing to connect 
 > them except that they live within the same SOAP envelope,
 > 
 > <!-- across headers -->
 > <SOAPENV:Header>
 >    <n:e1: SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding">
 >         <n:target id="targ">somestring</n:target>
 >         <n:link ref="targ"/>
 >   </n:e1>
 >   ...maybe some other headers here...
 >    <m:e2: SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding">
 >         <m:target id="targ2">somestring</n:target>
 >         <m:link ref="targ2"/>
 >   </m:e2>
 > 
 > </SOAPENV:Header>
 > 
 > and the following?
 > 
 > <!-- within a header -->
 > <SOAPENV:Header>
 >    <n:e1>
 >         <n:target 
 > SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding">
 >                 <n:inner1 id="targ" >
 >                      somestring
 >              </n:inner1>
 >                 <n:link ref="targ" >
 >        </n:target>
 >        ...maybe some other elements here 
 >         <m:target 
 > SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding">
 >                 <m:inner1 id="targ2" >
 >                      somestring
 >              </m:inner1>
 >                 <m:link ref="targ2" >
 >        </m:target>
 >     </n:e1>
 > </SOAPENV:Header>
 > 
 > The following is the same as the previous one, except that the encoding 
 > style is only activated once an apparent element.
 > 
 > <SOAPENV:Header>
 >    <n:e1 SOAPENV:encodingStyle="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-encoding">
 >         <n:e2>
 >                 <n:inner1 id="targ" >
 >                      somestring
 >              </n:inner1>
 >                 <n:link1 ref="targ" >
 >        </n:e2>
 >        ...maybe some other elements here 
 >         <n:e3>
 >                 <n:inner2 id="targ2" >
 >                      somestring
 >              </n:inner2>
 >                 <n:link2 ref="targ2" >
 >        </n:e3>
 >     </n:e1>
 > </SOAPENV:Header>
 > 
 > I presume that this last example is different, in that we have now created 
 > a struct, which undoubtedly ties the graphs together.  Right?
 > 
 > I think that giving an interpretation to each of these examples would help 
 > to get everyone on the same page as to the rules for multiple graphs.  I 
 > would then make sure that the specification is clear on all of these 
 > points.  Thank you.
 > 
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