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Re: Proposal for resolution to issue 190

From: Christopher Ferris <chris.ferris@sun.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:40:54 -0500
Message-ID: <3C979446.4080001@sun.com>
To: xml-dist-app@w3.org
+1

noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:

> HFN writes:
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>>>If this is true then we might be able to close issue 190 by referring to
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> 183.
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> Looks good to me.  I'd say "close it".  Thanks.
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> "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <henrikn@microsoft.com>
> 03/19/2002 12:28 PM
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>         To:     <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        Proposal for resolution to issue 190
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> Issue 190 [0] states that:
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> "In his recent comments on Part1, Noah raised the following
> issue : "[NRM12] We can't keep applications from requiring
> validation for their own content.  How can we keep applications
> from supplying defaults for their own purposes? We even do it for
> our own attributes.""
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> And proposes the following resolution
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> <proposal author="Noah">
> Except where this specification mandates a default value for an
> attribute, SOAP messages must carry explicit values for all
> attribute information items required by this recommendation.
> </proposal>
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> I think this has been already addressed by resolution to issue 183 [2]
> which caused the offending text to be rewritten [3] as follows:
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> "SOAP does not require any XML schema processing (assessment or
> validation) in order to establish the values or correctness of element
> and attribute information items defined by this specification. These
> information items must, unless stated otherwise, be carried explicitly
> in the transmitted SOAP message (see 3 SOAP Message Construct).
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> Specifications for the processing of application-defined data carried in
> a SOAP message but not defined by this specification may but NEED NOT
> call for additional validation of the SOAP message in conjunction with
> application-level processing. In such cases, the choice of schema
> language and/or validation technology is at the discretion of the
> application."
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> If this is true then we might be able to close issue 190 by referring to
> 183.
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> Comments?
> 
> Henrik Frystyk Nielsen
> mailto:henrikn@microsoft.com
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> [0] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-issues.html#x190
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2002Mar/0134.html
> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2002Feb/0186.html
> [3] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/1/10/11/soap12-part1.html#reltoxml
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