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RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services

From: Anne Thomas Manes <anne@manes.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:58:09 -0800
To: "'Xml-Dist-App@W3. Org'" <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CJEIKEMEBAONGDDNLEKFKEOADGAA.anne@manes.net>
I agree. SOAP is independent of the underlying protocol. I don't want to
rely on the underlying protocol (which may not always be available) to
ensure the quality of service of my message delivery.

Anne

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xml-dist-app-request@w3.org [mailto:xml-dist-app-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of David Orchard
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:03 AM
> To: trivedi@india.hp.com; 'Roger L. Costello'; 'Xml-Dist-App@W3. Org'
> Subject: RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services
>
>
> Why is there a need for reliable http?  I believe that
> reliability should be
> layered on top of HTTP, and SOAP is a good place to do it.
>
> Imagine the multi-hop case, and you can immediately see why the
> higher layer
> needs end-to-end reliability.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xml-dist-app-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:xml-dist-app-request@w3.org]On
> > Behalf Of Ravi Trivedi
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:50 AM
> > To: 'Roger L. Costello'; 'Xml-Dist-App@W3. Org'
> > Subject: RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services
> >
> >
> > 	My point is that there is a  pressing need to have a
> > widely accepted industry standard for this.
> > 	HTTPR is surely one such interesting effort.
> > Regards,
> > Ravi
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > import std.disclaimer;
> > --------------------------------
> >
> >
> > =>-----Original Message-----
> > =>From: John Evdemon [mailto:jevdemon@vitria.com]
> > =>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:04 PM
> > =>To: 'trivedi@india.hp.com'; 'Roger L. Costello';
> > =>'Xml-Dist-App@W3. Org'
> > =>Subject: RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>On Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:21 AM, Ravi Trivedi wrote:
> > =>>
> > =>> I think there is a sufficient need to have a reliable HTTP
> > =>> protocol support.
> > =>>
> > =>IBM has done some interesting work in this area:
> > =>
> > =>"Reliable HTTP (HTTPR) is a new protocol that offers the
> > => reliable delivery of HTTP packets between the server and
> > => client. This solves a number of issues that are evident in
> > => current HTTP and opens the way to reliable messaging between
> > => Web services."
> > =>
> > =>http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-phtt/
> > =>
> >
>
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