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RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services

From: Doug Davis <dug@us.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:31:58 -0500
To: "David Orchard" <david.orchard@bea.com>
Cc: <trivedi@india.hp.com>, "'Roger L. Costello'" <costello@mitre.org>, "'Xml-Dist-App@W3. Org'" <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
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FYI - HTTPR is layered on top of HTTP.
-Dug


"David Orchard" <david.orchard@bea.com>@w3.org on 01/09/2002 12:03:08 PM

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Subject:    RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services



Why is there a need for reliable http?  I believe that reliability should
be
layered on top of HTTP, and SOAP is a good place to do it.

Imagine the multi-hop case, and you can immediately see why the higher
layer
needs end-to-end reliability.

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xml-dist-app-request@w3.org
> [mailto:xml-dist-app-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Ravi Trivedi
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:50 AM
> To: 'Roger L. Costello'; 'Xml-Dist-App@W3. Org'
> Subject: RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services
>
>
>     My point is that there is a  pressing need to have a
> widely accepted industry standard for this.
>     HTTPR is surely one such interesting effort.
> Regards,
> Ravi
>
> --------------------------------
> import std.disclaimer;
> --------------------------------
>
>
> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>From: John Evdemon [mailto:jevdemon@vitria.com]
> =>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:04 PM
> =>To: 'trivedi@india.hp.com'; 'Roger L. Costello';
> =>'Xml-Dist-App@W3. Org'
> =>Subject: RE: Article: Fat protocols slow Web services
> =>
> =>
> =>On Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:21 AM, Ravi Trivedi wrote:
> =>>
> =>> I think there is a sufficient need to have a reliable HTTP
> =>> protocol support.
> =>>
> =>IBM has done some interesting work in this area:
> =>
> =>"Reliable HTTP (HTTPR) is a new protocol that offers the
> => reliable delivery of HTTP packets between the server and
> => client. This solves a number of issues that are evident in
> => current HTTP and opens the way to reliable messaging between
> => Web services."
> =>
> =>http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-phtt/
> =>
>
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