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RE: Summarizing the last 192 discussion

From: Williams, Stuart <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 15:30:32 +0100
Message-ID: <5E13A1874524D411A876006008CD059F192A59@0-mail-1.hpl.hp.com>
To: "'Mark Baker'" <distobj@acm.org>
Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
Mark et. al.,

> - Noah and Chris appear to want to change 7.4.1.2 to say that if a
> fault is received on a 2xx, then FaultHint would be set to true.

The idea behind FaultHint when I introduced it into the framework binding
was as an abstract way of signalling information derived directly from the
underlying protocol - eg. HTTP status codes. As a hint, it's saying you will
probably find a fault in the associated message (but you might not). It was
*not* intended (by me) that it be set based on the content of the message.

Anyway... that was the original intent behind it, a hint that did not
require message traversal. It also, wrt Issue 192, it deferred the decision
on whether the 'hint' or the 'message content' be regarded as authorative to
the SOAP node using the binding. The SOAP node then needs to deal with the
inconsistent cases of faults being delivered without a hint and fault hints
being delivered without fault content.

Regards

Stuart

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org]
> Sent: 28 March 2002 01:51
> To: xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: Summarizing the last 192 discussion
> 
> 
> I don't think I have any more to add to this discussion at this point.
> It's the same old issue that we've never come to an agreement on.
> 
> So, what I can extract from this discussion is this;
> 
> - everybody likes the resolution to issue 12
> 
> - I like the current state tables in our HTTP binding, specifically
> 7.4.1.2/7.4.1.3 (of the latest editor's draft), as it reflects my view
> that a fault can only be processed as a fault when received with a 4xx
> or 5xx response code, i.e. FaultHint is never set on a 2xx (hmm, it's
> still only set on 500, not 4xx).
> 
> - Noah and Chris appear to want to change 7.4.1.2 to say that if a
> fault is received on a 2xx, then FaultHint would be set to true.
> 
> Does that capture the current state of things?
> 
> MB
> -- 
> Mark Baker, Chief Science Officer, Planetfred, Inc.
> Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.      mbaker@planetfred.com
> http://www.markbaker.ca   http://www.planetfred.com
> 
Received on Monday, 1 April 2002 09:36:03 GMT

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