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RE: summary of soapbuilders discussion about inlining multirefs

From: Andrew Layman <andrewl@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:08:18 -0800
Message-ID: <C3729BBB6099B344834634EC67DE4AE103DA2E59@red-msg-01.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Forward references are necessary in graphs that have loops.

-----Original Message-----
From: Asir S Vedamuthu [mailto:asirv@webmethods.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:35 AM
To: Jacek Kopecky; xml-dist-app@w3.org
Subject: Re: summary of soapbuilders discussion about inlining multirefs

<snip> [1]
"There were various points that people were pointing out:
 1) maybe we should also disallow forward references
..
Now let me detail the points.
 1) Some people felt forward references might be bad, other felt
my original proposal disallowed forward references. I propose to
keep forward references because they allow references from
headers to body, which might be necessary for things like
XMLDSIG, although any other referencing mechanism (most probably
XML IDREF) could be used instead of SOAP Encoding referencing."
</snip>

I guess you are referring to id and href mechanism for representing
multi-references.

In your proposal for Issue # 30 [2], you said that

"remove the mentions of the attribute information items 'id'
and 'href' from sections 2 of both parts of the spec, for these
are encoding-specific attributes,"

OK, so id and href are encoding-specific attributes.

First, a question of clarification - you used the word necessary; why
would
XMLDSIG use SOAP Encoding specific attributes for referencing? Are they
currently using it?

Second, like others, I also believe that forward references are bad.
'Cos,
there is very limited payoff for a big cost.

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001Oct/0231.html
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2001Oct/0244.html

Regards,

Asir S Vedamuthu

webMethods, Inc.
703-460-2513 or asirv@webmethods.com
http://www.webmethods.com/
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