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RE: Announce: A brief history of SOAP

From: Box, Don <dbox@develop.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:04:18 -0800
Message-ID: <824EAE80328AD311B259009027626782020A2DE3@INFOSERVER>
To: "'Fredrik Lundh'" <fredrik@pythonware.com>, "Box, Don" <dbox@develop.com>
Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fredrik Lundh [mailto:fredrik@pythonware.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 2:35 AM
> To: Box, Don
> Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Announce: A brief history of SOAP
> 
> 
> > You can read it at http://www.develop.com/dbox/postsoap.html
> 
>     "Does SOAP/XML Messaging make sense without something like
>     WSDL? No way"
> 
> huh?  I've got lots of users for my python soap implementation,
> and now you're saying that what they do doesn't make sense?

Without a machine-readable metadata format, there are too many opportunities
for misinterpretation, especially when bridging to type systems that have a
strict type system (e.g., Java, .NET, C++/COM, JDBC). This got hashed out on
the SOAP list ages ago.

> what have we missed?

In a script-only world, probably nothing. However, for folks who aren't
using Perl/Python/Tcl etc, the lack of metadata makes all of this XML stuff
very stone-age.

I firmly believe that within 12 months, schema compilers will render things
like the DOM and SAX fairly obsolete except for low-level XML wonks. In the
absence of metadata, this just can't happen.

DB
http://www.develop.com/dbox
Received on Saturday, 31 March 2001 13:04:35 GMT

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