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FW: Toss section 5 (create SOAP-lite)

From: Daniela Florescu <daniela.florescu@propel.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:17:58 -0700
Message-ID: <A59E9E87D8CAD311B005009027AFC5F001F85F9C@exchg01.propel.com>
To: xml-dist-app@w3.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniela Florescu 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:57 AM
> To: 'Bob Cunnings'; Daniela Florescu
> Subject: RE: Toss section 5 (create SOAP-lite)
> 
> 
> Bob,
> 
> As long as:
> 
> (a) section 5 remains optional, i.e. it is clear
> for users that the fact they ignore it does
> not imply that their implementation is not Soap
> compliant and
> 
> (b) it is taken out of Soap and put in a
>  separate, non-mandatory document,
> 
> it's OK with me.
> 
> But I am not sure that this is the case for
>  the moment, and this is what I would like
> to obtain. Does this sound reasonable?
> 
> Best regards,
> Dana
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Cunnings [mailto:cunnings@lectrosonics.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:42 AM
> > To: Daniela Florescu
> > Subject: RE: Toss section 5 (create SOAP-lite)
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > But the use of Section 5 encoding is purely optional... even for 
> > RPC. There seems to be some confusion on this point.
> > 
> > RC
> > 
> > > I don't think it is a naive comment at all.
> > > In fact, I strongly agree with Roger and
> > > I support the idea that the WG should 
> > > seriously consider to toss the section 5, 
> > > or to put it in a different (non mandatory)
> > >  document.
> > > 
> > > The way I wrap the internal data of my application
> > > (PL/SQL or Cobol for example because I am a database person)
> > > into an XML document is my own internal business,
> > > and I think it is inappropriate for a W3C WG to
> > > standardize on this. In fact, section 5 does not help
> > > me at all in this task, it just provides noise that
> > > makes my task more difficult.
> > > 
> > > >From my own experience, none of the companies that
> > > I know or work with seriously consider to use the
> > > information in Section 5 when they map their internal
> > > data into Soap message bodies. Thinking that
> > >  they will do is naive.
> > > 
> > > My 3 cents and a half,
> > > Dana
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rich Salz [mailto:rsalz@zolera.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:27 PM
> > > > To: costello@mitre.org; xml-dist-app@w3.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Toss section 5 (create SOAP-lite)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > By design, SOAP enables both structured-data and xml-document 
> > > > exchange. 
> > > > Just because you find the latter completely sufficient is no 
> > > > reason cut
> > > > the bar in half. :)
> > > > 
> > > > So yes, I'd say it's a naive comment.
> > > > 	/r$
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Zolera Systems, Securing web services (XML, SOAP, Signatures,
> > > > Encryption)
> > > > http://www.zolera.com
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
Received on Tuesday, 31 July 2001 14:18:22 GMT

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