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Re: TBTF pieces for the specs

From: Glen Daniels <gdaniels@macromedia.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:17:29 -0500
Message-ID: <015001c17dc9$dd23e460$6b00a8c0@ne.mediaone.net>
To: "David Fallside" <fallside@us.ibm.com>
Cc: <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Hi David:

Stuart made some very similar comments in a private note as well.  I was in
a bit of a rush yesteday, and so pretty much took that text (which was the
last bit I edited) unedited from the earlier MEP document, where it was
certainly intended in a more conversational style.  I agree it needs some
work.

Thanks for the comments, and I'll certainly take you up on the offer to
help.  Let's plan to get this "en-spec'ed" over the next day or two.

--Glen

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Fallside" <fallside@us.ibm.com>
To: "Glen Daniels" <gdaniels@macromedia.com>
Cc: <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: TBTF pieces for the specs


>
> Glen, thanks for working on these pieces. Regarding the description of
> "Conventions for describing state as properties" (1), I think it's content
> is basically about right but it will need some further editorial work. For
> example:
> -- The subsection "Properties, Features ....." starts with the statement
> "We have had some discussion .... The view advanced here .....": This type
> of voice is inappropriate for spec text. I suggest a simple fix is to
start
> the paragraph with "A message is an abstraction of the information .... ",
> i.e. delete the first sentence and the beginning of the second.
> -- Similarly, the last paragraph "We leave it open (at least for now)
...."
> should be changed to something like "A property may appear ....".
> -- The subsection "Properties, Features ....." also needs some more
> organisation and a crisper style. Breaking up that subsection's first
> paragraph would make it less dense, and shortening some of the sentences
> would improve readability (e.g. the paragraph starting "Having abstracted
> messages ..." consists of a single sentence).
> I am available over the next few days to help edit.
> Regards,
> David
>
> ............................................
> David C. Fallside, IBM
> Ext Ph: 530.477.7169
> Int  Ph: 544.9665
> fallside@us.ibm.com
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> All:
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> Here are the current versions of the four pieces which the TBTF proposes
> inserting into the upcoming WD.
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> The Binding Framwork itself may be found at [1].  This will become section
> 5
> (I believe) of Section 1.
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> The other pieces, which all go in Section 2 (Adjuncts), are attached to
> this
> message.  As a reminder, they are:
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> 1) A description of the property naming/typing conventions, plus the
> "logical architecture", which we use in the following pieces.
>
> 2) A description of Transport MEPs, and a specification for a
> "Simple-Request-Repsonse" MEP.
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> 3) An HTTP binding per the framework, using the property convention and
the
> Simple-Request-Repsonse MEP.
>
> These pieces were mostly taken wholesale from earlier text which the TF
had
> produced.  The structure has changed a bit, and some small edits have been
> done in a few places.
>
> A "merged" version of this text to see how it appears in the actual flow
of
> the WD should be available tomorrow.
>
> --Glen
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> [1]
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2001Dec/att-0008/01-SOAPBind
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> ingFramework-01.html
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> #### Default HTTP Binding.htm has been removed from this note on December
> 05 2001 by David Fallside
> #### Framework-Properties.png has been removed from this note on December
> 05 2001 by David Fallside
> #### PropertyConventions.html has been removed from this note on December
> 05 2001 by David Fallside
> #### Requesting-STD.png has been removed from this note on December 05
2001
> by David Fallside
> #### Responding-STD.png has been removed from this note on December 05
2001
> by David Fallside
> #### SRR-Std.png has been removed from this note on December 05 2001 by
> David Fallside
> #### Transport Message Exchange Pattern.htm has been removed from this
note
> on December 05 2001 by David Fallside
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